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4JetStream 06-07-2012 04:35 AM

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jabwmu 06-07-2012 06:05 AM

Anyone know what the company considers as a commuter?

Is it 120 miles straight line distance? Anyone know where the wording is located?

Thanks.

TOGA LK 06-07-2012 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by bigbusdriver (Post 1206926)
Yes they are on to sustainable and consistent raises and increasing mainline fleet numbers (TA) and rapidly approaching retirements with an increasing DC and no loss of pension to start with. This will be a golden age for his group.


Originally Posted by Bluto (Post 1206942)
Unless we wizz it all away by outsourcing domestic narrowbody flying while making ourselves so efficient we manage to mitigate the first 2-3 years of long-delayed mandatory retirements. Sorry, but you don't get cash to cover your financial loss from my 'no' vote any more than I get a subsidy for the potential stagnation resulting from your 'yes'. We each get one vote.

Many of the post '07 hires, like myself, also have 30+ years to deal with the results of this agreement. Many of us have also worked at numerous airlines and dealt with outsourcing, stagnation, displacements, and furloughs, along with the resulting poverty.

Being senior doesn't make you right any more than being junior makes us wrong. I won't pretend to understand the challenges you've been through, please don't pretend to understand ours.


Mods, sticky please ^^^

TOGA LK 06-07-2012 06:09 AM

Almost put this under tool of the day:

TA pg. 1-14, line 14.

"The company's compliance with the minimum ratio of MBH to DBH will be measured for the first time on July 1, 2014 and then measured again each succeeding July 1 thereafter, ..."

TOGA LK 06-07-2012 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by jabwmu (Post 1207037)
Anyone know what the company considers as a commuter?

Is it 120 miles straight line distance? Anyone know where the wording is located?

Thanks.

Probably half the list after the ALV hits 80 hours and the displacements are figured out.

hockeypilot44 06-07-2012 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 1207043)
Probably half the list after the ALV hits 80 hours and the displacements are figured out.

At first I laughed at this post. I would be crying now if I didn't already commute.

hockeypilot44 06-07-2012 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 1207041)
Almost put this under tool of the day:

TA pg. 1-14, line 14.

"The company's compliance with the minimum ratio of MBH to DBH will be measured for the first time on July 1, 2014 and then measured again each succeeding July 1 thereafter, ..."

Does this mean the first time the ratios are compared is two years from now? Does this also mean they only ratios ever compared will be when we are doing our max flying in the summer? Do the winter ratios not matter? Is it an average through the year or a one-time July 1 snapshot every year?

Bucking Bar 06-07-2012 06:40 AM

Been discussing the new Japanese transit VISA requirements on the other thread and it probably belongs on the "Latest and Greatest."

Our Manilla station is walking hundreds of passengers daily to Korean and other partner airlines (with full refunds) since Japan has instituted a new transit VISA policy. To go through our Narita hub most of our Asian passengers must pay a $100 fee, take a seminar at their nearest Japanese Embassy, then wait several weeks for a "transit VISA" which may, or may not, come. The transit VISA issued by the Japanese is good for one day (limiting travel options) and confusion over the date of the lay over (many flights span two days) will result in the passenger being sent back to Country of origin on the next flight out.

The Japanese Embassy staff is so overwhelmed that they have directed people to third party agencies which (typical of the Philippines) are very expensive, corrupt and inefficient.

Suffice it to say ... Narita is pretty useless as a hub if many of our passengers can not transit it.

US Citizens can still get through NRT, but not holders of US VISA's or Green Cards (permanent residents). This is why full 747's are leaving Asian nations with lots and lots of empty seats.

Guam is probably not the answer. My guess is that we'll get partners and withdraw from the Asian markets that we can't serve directly from the US.

Like to hear from Slowplay, or some of our Asian pilots on this. What I've heard so far have been from the Delta Agents in MNL.

nwaf16dude 06-07-2012 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by jabwmu (Post 1207037)
Anyone know what the company considers as a commuter?

Is it 120 miles straight line distance? Anyone know where the wording is located?

Thanks.

Section 6 paragraph A. 3. f. 1. says if you take a paid move you have to move to within 125 nm of your new base, so maybe that's the definition of commuter?

TOGA LK 06-07-2012 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1207054)
Does this mean the first time the ratios are compared is two years from now? Does this also mean they only ratios ever compared will be when we are doing our max flying in the summer? Do the winter ratios not matter? Is it an average through the year or a one-time July 1 snapshot every year?

No idea. Anyone else? Maybe an ATL P2P or LEC rep will chime in....


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