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tsquare 08-19-2012 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 1248449)
Meaning they haven't hired since 2000. Their most junior Captain has been with the company over 20 years! Still have 1800 pilots on furlough. The SLI would be a nightmare. Probably make USAirways' merger look like a Disney movie.

Name one merger where DOH has played any legitimate part. *sigh* I guess that fact won't keep some of you from dreaming it can become reality nonetheless. I don't care if they haven't hired since 1950, and neither will an arbiter. It doesn't matter. Besides, they wouldn't be the acquiring carrier, and SWAPA/SWA showed how to take care of that. Door number 1... good deal. Door number 2... not so much.

acl65pilot 08-19-2012 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by 76drvr (Post 1248493)
I guess it depends on how much of their fragmentation language survives and how much each gets.

Yep, devil is in the details which are not known yet.

acl65pilot 08-19-2012 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1248495)
true that. does seem like the vultures (which includes us) our circling and it's not because there's something dead. They just want to rip it apart. And in the end it's probably UsAir that disappears from airline history.

and it sounds like stuff is moving kind of fast.

remember when Hawaiian was all that we thought would happen?


If you were a CEO of an airline, would you tie yourself up financially or with regulatory ATI issues with an airline of smaller scope until you knew the end state of the AMR CH11 situation?

tsquare 08-19-2012 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1248522)
If you were a CEO of an airline, would you tie yourself up financially or with regulatory ATI issues with an airline of smaller scope until you knew the end state of the AMR CH11 situation?

Well if all the bluster on this forum is any real indication of the sentiment over there, if I were a CEO I would pick up the pieces for cheap at the fire sale. I know that's cold and callous, but that is what the AA guys on here seem to be saying.. unless I am misinterpreting their words.

flyallnite 08-19-2012 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1248522)
If you were a CEO of an airline, would you tie yourself up financially or with regulatory ATI issues with an airline of smaller scope until you knew the end state of the AMR CH11 situation?

You wouldn't. It's either LCC and AMR or AMR standalone. Not very exciting, but that's the reality. We might pick up a few slots when it's all said and done, or possibly do a terminal swap in JFK, but that's about it. The Haneda issue is still the most pressing thing down the road.

forgot to bid 08-19-2012 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1248522)
if you were a ceo of an airline, would you tie yourself up financially or with regulatory ati issues with an airline of smaller scope until you knew the end state of the amr ch11 situation?

amr

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Denny Crane 08-19-2012 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1248515)
Why do you say things are moving kind of fast?

I don't think one can point to anything specific but it sure "feels" like things are beginning to pick up speed. Maybe the catalyst will be when and what the judge rules in regards to the pilot contract....... What happens if and when the judge rules against APA? (I don't see how it will not happen.) Does that also toss out the fragmentation part of their contract? Not trying to be a vulture, would just like to know????

Denny

grasshopper 08-19-2012 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1248525)
amr

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Jenny

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newKnow 08-19-2012 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1248530)
I don't think one can point to anything specific but it sure "feels" like things are beginning to pick up speed. Maybe the catalyst will be when and what the judge rules in regards to the pilot contract....... What happens if and when the judge rules against APA? (I don't see how it will not happen.) Does that also toss out the fragmentation part of their contract? Not trying to be a vulture, would just like to know????

Denny

All I know is that these sure are interesting days. I think its a great time to be an A330 captain! :D

acl65pilot 08-19-2012 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1248523)
Well if all the bluster on this forum is any real indication of the sentiment over there, if I were a CEO I would pick up the pieces for cheap at the fire sale. I know that's cold and callous, but that is what the AA guys on here seem to be saying.. unless I am misinterpreting their words.


In the end that may be what you see. It may be small pieces, nothing at all, or a whole heck of a lot. Good thing we have a standing merger committee that plans for all possibilities.


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