Hey you PCS experts,

I know the new TA "eliminates trip parking." There's a cabal of guys doing it. I heard today that they have a work around. Is that possible? If so, how could they do it? Its BS and I want to stop it.

Thanks.

Yup. Wish I'd seen it. Was flying a max block, long mofo, day. Have to watch it on the DVR.

If you drop a trip the only way it an come back to your line is via PCS and that is limited to ALV+15 where the swap board isn't.

Trying to figure how they could work around that. Senior guys could still do it since the chances of someone getting their trip via PCS are smaller, but again it's limited to ALV+15.

You have not read the rule. While the flight hour portion would allow that the duty time portion would actually mean many current flights would need augmentation that currently operate with 2 men.

Not with a 48-hour layover, right? A 48-hour layover "turns" a US pilot "into" a Euopean pilot, and so a lot current 3-man trips can become 2-man trips. This negates the limitation to a shorter duty day, and we can do NYC-BRU/CVG/FRA/MAD/BCN etc. with two pilots.

The only thing that prevents it is our contract.

As currently written.

So...is "swap with friends" gone?

Can a guy park a trip, pick one up, then swap something else with his buddy to get his old trip back?

I'm with Buzz on this, but I've been seeing some pretty squirly white slip awards the past few days. How could any line holder have headroom to pick up a 67hr. trip, unless he's 'parked' a trip off his line to get far enough under the cap to do it, unless he just straight up dropped the trip, in which case it should have gone into open time...but I didn't see anything there except two big trips worth 67 hr. and 58 hrs.

Both were picked up on white slips....how?

So, I think there are still some games going on...:rolleyes:

I thought I read that the only way we could end up flying 9 hours, with 2 pilots, was if it signed in prior to 1pm? How many Europe trips depart the USA prior to 1pm? I realize they could easily change the departure times to make it happen, but I think the loads would suffer.

I think an increasingly high number of pilots play schedule roulette, where they drop everything at the begininning of the month, and WS back.

I think this is a by-product of pmNWA pilots looking at the new system, and trying to figured out how it's used (I don't mean abused, just that it's 5,000 guys taking a fresh look, without the burden of tradition), and realizing WS gets served before SWP, and naturally infering that they would need to drop and WS to effect schedule changes.

In addition, having worked under a system that rewarding high-time months, with X1.5>80HRS, they cast a suspicious eye on the GS system, as it rewarded fewer pilots, less predictably.

Add in other non-merger factors, such a low pay driving desperate bhavior, an ultra-permissive swap system that lets people get around max pickup, and we're slowly getting to an FAR-limit-only airline.

It's completely backwards from where we should be, but it is what it is.

I thought it was something like 9AM-12PM, or similar. If it's a nice late morning start, I think you can do 9 hours, with a long duty day.

That's because you've laid over 48 hours, so you're now a European pilot. You fix your beret, move your cigarette to the furthest edge of your mouse, you pick up a baguette for the trip, and merde, it's time to go to weurk.

Not in a mudhen?:D