How many bills have you paid saying "no"?:rolleyes:

obtw, you don't understand SEC filings if you think they don't tell where your bill paying ability is headed...

The question stands.

I know your personal opinion of the TA. You have every right to that opinion.

I asked if you were an elected LEC Rep, would you have voted to allow the pilots to vote on the TA or not?

Funny. Anytime someone asks you a direct question you disappear for a couple of days and never answer it.

Really? You're going to continue with this when you constantly never answer direct questions. Get over yourself.

I'll answer it.

I would have voted "no." It did not meet the direction of the pilots, and in many cases the direction of the reps.

Separating the process and the results was something I tried very hard to do. The MEC started their regular meeting eight hrs after the TA was reached. Given where the pay and other items were, it would have been prudent to have them agree on where the package was prior to TAing it.

Using Tim's words, of not sacrificing the product for a quick result always came to mind while deliberating how I would vote. I saw the product as a lacking because of the speed. (Many items not addressed and the top item, as admitted at all levels of the MEC fell 35% short on the amendable date. It was not one item or two, it was the whole product. It was our first major, non consolidation section 6 after CH11. We needed to do more than pay hit and run ball.

DAL has a business plan, is on track for another stellar year, with a bright future even in the face of the industry and macro economic world. What we got would have, after much deliberation, not been sufficient to meet the direction of the pilots, even after time valuing it for speed.

Honestly, if I was on the MEC, I would have made for certain that specific monetary levels would have to have been hit for the NC to TA the agreement. What the MEC voted on, would not have been possible if more specific direction was given. That is one of the root issue.

One thing that you may not see is that most pilots voted, yes, not because they liked the agreement, but because they did not feel that the NC could go back in their current form after making the statements they did.

He asked, I answered. I'm OK going on record on how I would have voted. What he will fail to realize is that, I respect the will of the pilots. I also support debate and disagreement to get to a decision. We vote, we move on. No one is slighted or an enemy for their position.

Good for you. He doesn't operate similarly.

I'll compare the substance of my posts anyday, capn...

Slow vs. ACL = interesting times on APC!

Slow posting more frequently = interesting times ahead at Delta?

Call me a conspiracy theorist...

Slow,

I'm not trying to defend anyone but you ask such a loaded question that, in my mind, is unanswerable with the information the line pilot was provided. The answer to it would have to involve what was briefed to the MEC from many different sources that were not available to the line pilot. Alot of which was probably covered by non-disclosure agreements.....

Denny