Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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I see this airplane as no viable threat. The holes in the back where the air goes out... covered up. So it can't move. And even if it could, the windows are all covered up.
Not a threat.
I think the stupid part was some not recognizing that this TA captured more Delta system flying for the mainline.
The company's SEC filing shows significant mainline growth through 2015, as the mainline grows from 730 to 796 aircraft.
I don't think anyone predicted immediate mainline growth, particularly since the new mainline 100 seater was going to arrive until the second half of 2013.
I'm looking forward to the maiine growth this improved scope will bring the mainline.
The company's SEC filing shows significant mainline growth through 2015, as the mainline grows from 730 to 796 aircraft.
I don't think anyone predicted immediate mainline growth, particularly since the new mainline 100 seater was going to arrive until the second half of 2013.
I'm looking forward to the maiine growth this improved scope will bring the mainline.
Question: How many 51+ seat regional jets would we have if the mainline fleet had reached 796 jets under the old section 1?
Answer: 255.
Question: How many 51+ seat regional jets will they get to have regardless of the size of the mainline fleet as long as they take 86 B717s? Answer: 325.
Question: How many Q400s has Delta ordered since the aircraft went into service 12 years ago? Answer: 0. even after wasting billions on DCI they still didn't order any of them.
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Looks like 'ol Lumberg is back.
Sailing, that's the antithesis of what ALPA told us as we were being sold the TA. I don't have the product in front of me, but we were sent a fancy hiring comparison about a month before the vote. From what I remember the estimated difference in required hiring between TA and no TA (independent of the economy) was about two thousand jobs.
Seems a lot of things change - as SD finally affirmed - that Europe point to point is history in favor of large hub and spoke flying to European population centers for onward codeshare connections. I recall that we were told a few years back that could never happen either.
The problem is an MEC that functions, for purposes of buying into and granting releif for business plans, more as a department of the company than a trade union.
I don't disagree with the economy dictating growth and plans, the problem is ex post facto rationilazations for things that change and questions and factors that should have clearly been asked and vetted before the ratification of the TA. I don't recall much questioning of the economy (stupid) while we were getting all those power points, spreadsheets, and notepads. I do recall anyone who questioned the TA (20 Captain Rep) as being institutionally marginalized by ALPA.
Two topics. Take your pick.
Topic 1
Topic 1
A) Ratio. The minimum ratio once we get to the point of DCI 450 is 1.56. Agree? If we use the 796 mainline fleet number x the supposed 3,400 average AFH vs 450 DCI fleet number x 2800 average AFH you'll end up with a ratio of around 1.74. Maybe 1.77. Great, winning! Or overkill ripe for cuts when cuts are needed?
Topic 2B) A recent study, published online in the journal PLoS ONE, indicates that arousal overrides feelings of disgust and facilitates a woman's desire to do something that a woman who is not aroused might find flat-out repulsive.
How Arousal Overrides Disgust During Sex: Study
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Sailing, that's the antithesis of what ALPA told us as we were being sold the TA. I don't have the product in front of me, but we were sent a fancy hiring comparison about a month before the vote. From what I remember the estimated difference in required hiring between TA and no TA (independent of the economy) was about two thousand jobs.
So you thought those jobs were going to show up in 76 days? You do know the contract was signed on 1 July 2012. I also hope your really don't believe that Delta airlines operates in a vacuum. Have you picked up a newspaper since 1 July?
Your stating two thousand jobs will be required by the contract or implied by ALPA is also BS. The document you reference put out by ALPA is still available on the website. You should have read it before voting on the contract but take the time to read it now. Read all if it including the assumptions. The actual number assuming a bunch of things which they carefully spell out was 1107 additional jobs. Thats almost half your quoted number. That number was at the end of 2016 or over 4 years from now. The number quoted for 2012 as far as extra jobs was 1 total job. They quoted 180 additional jobs by the end of 2013 or over 15 months from now. If the economy causes marketing to make a 2 percent downward adjustment in their block hour plan we lose over 200 jobs.
The 1107 additional jobs is almost exactly what you would expect with the addition of the 717's to the fleet and the resultant shift in block hours from DCI to the mainline. The first 717 however is still about a year away from a in service date. Again the contract was signed 76 days ago. Talk to me in 3 years!
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