B..b..b..b..but work rule give-ups were offset!!

 

Funny how all the claims needing 1000 new hires, oops, 450, err I mean 200 have evaopated.

Anyone smart enough to pour pee out a boot could see that the PWA would push hiring out.

Nu

 

I bet you especially like the part in the filing where they say they couldn't have done it without ALPA. I bet we see different meanings in that statement.

 

I just jumpseated on an SWA flight last month and the first thing they said to me was that many of the junior SWA FO's were looking at bailing for Delta when it starts hiring.

My response is the same for our guys and theirs. Don't do it unless you are sure our company's plan will fail and there's is the best in the long term.

I just got my 5 year pin but there's no way I'm leaving for UAL or SWA or anybody else. Good luck to those who wish to start over...

 

Until those aircraft are online and the mainline fleet count matches, that is as much a "projection" as anything else.

You and others keep pulling out that SEC statement like it is a 100% guaranteed done-deal or a can't-possibly-change statement.

The deteriorating picture for hiring seems to be leading the other way.

 

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But how can that be?!? They make so much $$$ and work so little.

 

No way. That would not be a good move. They have all the UAL pilots they just brought back and many of them are slightly older than you and have been furloughed for ten years. That picture is not as prett as some paint.

 

No doubt by 2015 things will be peachy and mass retirements will make all of us kings.
In the interim the mainline fleet stands at 722, so the projected growth will net 74 added airframes in the next 3 years and the commensurate additional manning. If the T&G is to be believed it's 14 bodies per jet, at any rate somewhere between 800-1000 extra pilot will be needed to fly the additional jets. (that figure of course is reduced by the number of excess pilots currently carried)

But back to that presentation subject to SEC rules - make sure to see all of the filings and presentations. Contrary to SD's explanation, the capacity cuts are not proportionally shared across the JV partners as is illustrated in this Delta slide from the Bank of America Investors conference a year ago:




Delta Slide above,
Expanded view of projections below:


I'm excited about the 74 growth airframes by 2015. but I'm also under no illusion that in the interim we will have some dry spells as far as career advancement. If you sit on a jet and a seat at a base that works for you life is good and will get better. If you don't, your light at the end of the tunnel just got a little dimmer with JG's weekly update pushing hiring to late 2013, possibly 2014. That assesment stands in contrast with the assertion from SD in an earlier weekly update where he suggested we "may...begin...preparations...for hiring...as soon as later this year...subject to the network plan." The suggestion was we will hire this year with some possible exceptions. That isn't the message currently coming from FlightOps leadership...

It feels a little like talking to a guy you lent money to. He's an honest guy but comes up with a new excuse every time you hit him up. You know he is a man of his word and will eventually make good on the debt, but the excuses of why not now, and the promises of payback just around the cover, make you leery of his current promises...


Cheers
George

 

I left United for DAL when they were rocketting forward back in the 90s. There is a huge cultural difference between the two. I much prefer the DAL culture.

At the time, from a purely fast paced upgrade perspective, there was no comparison, the smart thing to do was stay at United. In retrospect, I am glad I left.

Its the two times I was hired at Fedex and didn't leave that bugs me.