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Jack Bauer 10-11-2012 02:16 AM

Outsourcing 3.0 ready, set.......

Alaska Airlines to Order 50 Boeing 737s - WSJ.com

FlyZ 10-11-2012 04:30 AM

The nice thing is for them, they aren't parking 757s as they bring on those 73s. I wish we could do that.

FlyZ 10-11-2012 04:34 AM

Here's what RA said Monday: "This kind of international growth is possible only because of our partnership with Alaska..."

Really? So there is no way we could order a bunch of 737s, hire pilots to fly them, and actually compete with Alaska in Seattle?

Free Bird 10-11-2012 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1274929)
76 seaters will certainly grow. skyteam members will grow.

Our mainline fleet and block hours may increase in the distant future, but if DALPA continues to bail out management by convincing the sheep to pi$$ away work rules and QOL, our seniority list sure won't grow.

I think you guys are being a little hard on the Drank. It is more than likely that the 76 seat RJ's will grow, I suspect that the DCI deck is still being re-shuffled. Seems like once a month we announce a new codeshare or joint venture with a company that has huge widebody orders on the books. Every quarter it seems Delta does announce additional capacity cuts. Everyone hopes that this airline grows, it's just been so long that many of us will believe it when we see it.

For a fact, this airline has been getting smaller and the pilot group is as well. Sure the economy is the driving force here, but the ALV increases certainly don't do anything to help our stagnation.

You guys might not of liked his delivery, but most of his post was pretty accurate.

Doug Masters 10-11-2012 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 1275130)
I think you guys are being a little hard on the Drank. It is more than likely that the 76 seat RJ's will grow, I suspect that the DCI deck is still being re-shuffled. Seems like once a month we announce a new codeshare or joint venture with a company that has huge widebody orders on the books. Every quarter it seems Delta does announce additional capacity cuts. Everyone hopes that this airline grows, it's just been so long that many of us will believe it when we see it.

For a fact, this airline has been getting smaller and the pilot group is as well. Sure the economy is the driving force here, but the ALV increases certainly don't do anything to help our stagnation.

You guys might not of liked his delivery, but most of his post was pretty accurate.

What I don't understand is how the economy stagnates us, yet everyone we code share with seems to be growing and ordering jets.:confused:

sailingfun 10-11-2012 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 1275147)
What I don't understand is how the economy stagnates us, yet everyone we code share with seems to be growing and ordering jets.:confused:

Alaska not long ago recalled the last of their furloughed pilots. AF is shrinking and planning to spin off a large chunk of their operation to a low cost airline. US major airline are not growing a bit. SWA has no fleet expansion plans for the next 5 years and they have a balance sheet that makes the rest of us look like skid row bums.

Elvis90 10-11-2012 05:26 AM

I think there's too much uncertainty in business right now with the Presidential Election just 26 days away. We'll have more certainty on Nov 7th.

sailingfun 10-11-2012 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 1275127)
Here's what RA said Monday: "This kind of international growth is possible only because of our partnership with Alaska..."

Really? So there is no way we could order a bunch of 737s, hire pilots to fly them, and actually compete with Alaska in Seattle?

You should sometime take the time to go over to marketing and talk with the people working in the department. You might actually find you learn something.
Could be buy 737's and jump into those routes? Sure we could to a certain extent. There would be problems. We would need to get gates in SEA. None are available at the moment or planned to come available. If we can work that issue out we then need to take down Alaska. It should be a breeze to knock down the highest rated airline for customer service and the airline with the single most loyal customer base in the world. They will flock to fly on Delta. It will have to be a epic fare war with huge amounts of blood spilled. Can we take Alaska on and attempt to put them under? Thats what it will take to ever make money on matching their routes. I would put it as somewhere around a snowballs chance in hell.
Oh by the way. Have you looked at the actual passenger numbers? How many they send to us and how many we send to them?

Dakota Kid 10-11-2012 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1275092)
Outsourcing 3.0 ready, set.......

Alaska Airlines to Order 50 Boeing 737s - WSJ.com


Here is a link for those of US that don't have a WSJ account as I tried several times to get in through the link you provided and each time it took me back to a subscribe page.

Alaska Airlines orders 50 Boeing aircraft - chicagotribune.com

forgot to bid 10-11-2012 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1275092)
Outsourcing 3.0 ready, set.......

Alaska Airlines to Order 50 Boeing 737s - WSJ.com



It's even better on video.

Was this why we hurried up and signed the contract?

So they've got 120 jets, about to retire 6, about to add 75, for a total of 189 jets or a 66% increase their fleet size.

http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/201953-...alism-fail.gif


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