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Elvis90 10-11-2012 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1275431)

Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1275418)
Excellent point! Maybe someday I'll experience it.

You can too experience it if you come to NY, I'm a few numbers junior to you.

I'll probably experience it in MSP, since I've tried to avoid NYC. Plus I'd like to avoid another month of training for awhile. If I get displaced to NY, it'll be on the -88.

scambo1 10-11-2012 01:50 PM

Who is this Nestor guy ya'll are talking about. He just came out of the blue. Does anyone know him? Is he related to honey boo boo? Maybe he's a member of Duck Dynasty if he commutes.

smiley

Jack Bauer 10-11-2012 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1275182)
The latest AP article about Alaska's order says 2/3's of the new ones will replace existing aircraft, so it's really a net plus of ~17.

You are not couting the 62 options in that. Basically they will replace the -400's with some of the new planes but still have plenty more for huge growth.

Jack Bauer 10-11-2012 03:41 PM

Wait for some of the first new routes to be announced by Alaska Airlines shortly.....

SLC, Belize and Costa Rica.....and more to come after that. I am happy for my friends at Alaska. I say that sincerely.

I am sick to death of hearing from the union at Delta how outsourcing is good for us in the long run and we could never do this flying economically. It is pure nonsense. All the talk of tightening the reigns in C2012 of outsourced flying were words only. Another wasted opportunity where the Delta pilot group (under shortsighted, conflicted leadership) collectively shot itself in the foot. Frustrating.

newKnow 10-11-2012 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1275427)
what makes me miserable is the knowledge that so many of my coworkers are so hooked on widget-infused crack that they can't even see straight.

let's take a real look at how much C2012 will increase our productivity and reduce the number of pilots required. no, I'm not talking about DALPA's nonsensical numbers.

let's take a look at the growth of skyteam flying. heck, we don't have to go any farther than Alaska.

oh, and it's going to be virtually impossible to hire qualified replacements on a 1-for-1 basis with upcoming retirements.

so how's that growth going to happen?

johnson29, be honest now. do you believe our seniority list will grow over the next 10 years?

Purp,

(I said I wasn't going to get into any discussions like this after the contract passed, but here goes.)

I voted against the agreement. I too was worried about the productivity increases. But, my vote was in the minority. So, now we .... and it seems that I must emphasize the word "we" ... have a contract.

So, in my world, it is what it is. In my world, I hope my fears are proven to be wrong and we grow and move up the list like crazy. In my world, outside of going to work and kicking some SWA, UAL, and AMR butt, with the decisions I make and the service I provide, there is nothing that I see I can do about it.

So, I guess I'm asking, what exactly do you want to do? I mean you complain a lot about a lot, but what are your suggested solutions to the problems you perceive?

I sincerely want to know. Thanks.

New K Now

DeadHead 10-11-2012 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by dragon (Post 1275300)
We can't be focused on just one issue. There are greater issues at stake here. If we allow ourselves to become focused only on ourselves then we've missed the greatness of "We the People".

Vote how you want, but remember the country comes first even if that means some sacred cows (military for me) will have to be slaughtered. We simply cannot continue down this road of spend, spend spend. If we do, there won't be any need for any of us in the Transportation industry.

Well said!

Lots of bias in that article.

Roadkill 10-11-2012 04:17 PM

I'm right there with you newK... but I think it's pretty simple, sometimes you just HAVE to say, "I TOLD YOU SO!!" even when you know it's making you look like a big richardcranium. I'd say that's where purple is coming from... I don't know that I disagree with him at all, and he probably doesn't go on about this for a whole trip. I hope. ;)
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johnso29 10-11-2012 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1275534)
You are not couting the 62 options in that. Basically they will replace the -400's with some of the new planes but still have plenty more for huge growth.

You count options? Planes they haven't even ordered yet? I guess you better make the Delta 737-900ER count 130 then. And don't forget our 60 787's we have. :rolleyes:

RockyBoy 10-11-2012 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1275546)
Wait for some of the first new routes to be announced by Alaska Airlines shortly.....

SLC, Belize and Costa Rica.....and more to come after that. I am happy for my friends at Alaska. I say that sincerely.

I am sick to death of hearing from the union at Delta how outsourcing is good for us in the long run and we could never do this flying economically. It is pure nonsense. All the talk of tightening the reigns in C2012 of outsourced flying were words only. Another wasted opportunity where the Delta pilot group (under shortsighted, conflicted leadership) collectively shot itself in the foot. Frustrating.

There are already some rumors floating around that ALK is starting SLC service in 2013. I've heard SLC to LAX, LAS, PDX, and SEA will be ALK cities out of SLC. Now if ALK starts those routes and we pull SKYW flights out of those cities and keep our mainline service status quo then I'm cool with that. However, I have a feeling we will see the same number of SKYW ops into those cities and they will "right size" our domestic operations out of SLC.

sinca3 10-11-2012 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1275249)
Sinca,

I think you are confusing your once a year "APD," with a regular PD. An APD will drop with down to 25% reserve coverage with the exception of a few holiday black out dates.

So if 45 reserves were required the APD should work all the way down to 12 available. Remember, you only get 1 APD per anniversary year so always try a regular PD (unlimited) first.

Scoop

No, I just didn't do a good job of explaining! He said he was able to drop trips as a first year FO, which I haven't been able to do more than twice since 2007. As for the APD's I understand there can be a lower required number for it to be approved and have only been denied it once...that I can remember.
The 45/44 number I referenced were for this month in ATL as I have been trying to drop a couple of trips.....
Now off to catch the VP debate
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