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80ktsClamp 10-11-2012 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1275402)
It's a net growth of 17 airplanes over the next 10 years. Better than shrinkage.

We supposedly have a net growth of 71 aircraft over the next 3.... (hopefully???)

gloopy 10-11-2012 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1275398)
So the arbitrator(s) would award straight relative seniority?

At least within narrowbody equivalent positions yes, its very likely they would looking at the last 3 arbitrated lists.

I would hope DALPA would fight it tooth and nail, but at the end of the day it may be the sandwich we are fed. At that point all we'd have left are massive 20-30 year fences, which would become a necessary evil.

cni187 10-11-2012 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1275390)
Now that I've had nearly a year on the Maddog, there are some things I like:

MD-90
- Reversers - they're awesome, sometimes I don't have to touch the brakes
- Brakes - much more powerful
- Electric paralleling - no more power interruptions

MD-88
- They're all configured the same. MD-90's have too many varieties from too many countries. Where's the cargo fire warning panel? How do I test this transponder?

MD-88/90
- Flaps 23 - Dive Dive Dive!
- It's quieter up front compared to the Bus

I'll be on the Maddog for some time, and I don't mind.

The differences on the 90 are negligible. Try moving to the 757. What kind of printer is that?! Where'd the ACARS go? What's a 757-300? Where do I plug my headset in again? What kind of Comm panel is this?

Elvis90 10-11-2012 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1275413)

Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1275390)
Now that I've had nearly a year on the Maddog, there are some things I like:

MD-90
- Reversers - they're awesome, sometimes I don't have to touch the brakes
- Brakes - much more powerful
- Electric paralleling - no more power interruptions

MD-88
- They're all configured the same. MD-90's have too many varieties from too many countries. Where's the cargo fire warning panel? How do I test this transponder?

MD-88/90
- Flaps 23 - Dive Dive Dive!
- It's quieter up front compared to the Bus

I'll be on the Maddog for some time, and I don't mind.

The differences on the 90 are negligible. Try moving to the 757. What kind of printer is that?! Where'd the ACARS go? What's a 757-300? Where do I plug my headset in again? What kind of Comm panel is this?

Excellent point! Maybe someday I'll experience it.

scambo1 10-11-2012 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1275413)
The differences on the 90 are negligible. Try moving to the 757. What kind of printer is that?! Where'd the ACARS go? What's a 757-300? Where do I plug my headset in again? What kind of Comm panel is this?

The weirdest differences I ever encountered was on the 737-200. Most of the fleet was the same, but there were some we called the twisted sisters, nobody knew how to work the autopilots so most folks just handflew them until cruise and handflew back down.

correction, to make this legally defensible for APC, I'll say I didn't know how to work the autopilots on the sisters, I'm sure someone did.

Purple Drank 10-11-2012 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1274973)

You are one miserable person. How do you make it through a day?

what makes me miserable is the knowledge that so many of my coworkers are so hooked on widget-infused crack that they can't even see straight.

let's take a real look at how much C2012 will increase our productivity and reduce the number of pilots required. no, I'm not talking about DALPA's nonsensical numbers.

let's take a look at the growth of skyteam flying. heck, we don't have to go any farther than Alaska.

oh, and it's going to be virtually impossible to hire qualified replacements on a 1-for-1 basis with upcoming retirements.

so how's that growth going to happen?

johnson29, be honest now. do you believe our seniority list will grow over the next 10 years?

cni187 10-11-2012 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1275418)
Excellent point! Maybe someday I'll experience it.

You can too experience it if you come to NY, I'm a few numbers junior to you.

cni187 10-11-2012 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1275427)
what makes me miserable is the knowledge that so many of my coworkers are so hooked on widget-infused crack that they can't even see straight.

let's take a real look at how much C2012 will increase our productivity and reduce the number of pilots required. no, I'm not talking about DALPA's nonsensical numbers.

let's take a look at the growth of skyteam flying. heck, we don't have to go any farther than Alaska.

oh, and it's going to be virtually impossible to hire qualified replacements on a 1-for-1 basis with upcoming retirements.

so how's that growth going to happen?

johnson29, be honest now. do you believe our seniority list will grow over the next 10 years?

This must be you Mr Grimace


sailingfun 10-11-2012 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by Imapilot2 (Post 1275158)
Well I guess we know now its not us....Alaska will now double in size and do the work with thier new 737 order.:mad:

Funny, only 17 of those aircraft are projected for growth over the next 10 years. Why don't you post Delta's proposed fleet growth over the next 3 years.

cni187 10-11-2012 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1275402)
It's a net growth of 17 airplanes over the next 10 years. Better than shrinkage.



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