Actually the memo says "receiving' in September, not entering service, so that is a delay.

The fact that we did just OK does not negate the fact that we likely could have done much better, but since that chapter is closed you can make the revisionist history call, but of course you knew that would be the case once you got your way.

Yes, thank you for letting me buy my pay increase with productivity that will result in several years stagnation. I'm sure those getting displaced off the 767 and 320 will want to thank you as well. Damn that economy.

Go ahead and say it was the will of the Reps, pilots, etc and those who were in the minority are just sore losers.

More puppet master soma for the masses.

Have there been any updates WRT the cracks found in the B717's? Is there an AD out that may slow their arrival?

The point is we shouldn't have given stuff up in exchange for that.

Anyway did you all hear, not this upcoming AE , but the NEXT one is going to be HUGE!!! :rolleyes:

A DTW 73N base, finally!! The other night there were 8 Delta pilots all bellied up to the hotel bar...all 8 were LAX 73 guys. We had more guys there then we get at our LEC meetings. ;)

Slow, your input is normally good stuff...your delivery sucks. I'm sure we could all tighten up our rhetoric, you included.

We're definitely going to have to do our own flying if PNCL gets hammered by the 1113. No one will work there. They'd rather work at Silver or GoJets.

And an 1113 still won't allow an airline to buy 17 CRJ-900s, staff them, fly them for a year, then throw them in the desert for less than we can do in house.

Can't please everybody but mostly it seems like you can't please anybody around here.

Fair statement.

I thought he did, in writing. Does he need to tattoo it on his behind also?

Plus, I used the wrong term when I said "forward". I think the whole point of this discussion was that we're all NOT moving forward, but together. No progression, but no class warfare either.

Or are you arguing that our eyes deceive us, and we're actually experiencing progression? I see security in capacity discipline, but so far, no progression from the TA, just very gradual back-pedalling in every company communication, and in the most recent AE. As far as the next AE, I defy anyone to use the Nov CR "update" to paint a clear picture of what will happen there.

Here's the AD you speak of.

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory...2012-12-09.pdf

Guess we know where they'll displace pilots from to fund the DTW base. You know they will...