Originally Posted by CVG767A

Is anyone out there familiar with minimum line guarantee?

I'm stuck in AMS now (I know, woe is me), with a 48 hour layover that's become a 98 hour layover. My original trip was due back before the end of the month, but the reroute is a transition trip.

My original monthly projection was 67 hours. Now, since the new trip pays mostly next month, my projection is 56 hours. I haven't modified my line from what I was initially awarded. Does the line guarantee of 65 hours apply here? The way I read it, the answer seems to be yes, but a second opinion is always nice...

Thanks. (I don't want to make a call to ALPA; they've got more important things to do right now.)

Originally Posted by dalad

You can go negative bank to the ALV, then just pay it back next month.

Originally Posted by CVG767A

Thanks. I'm not too worried about the reduced paycheck (I planned on a light month). I'm more concerned with adherence to our contract. I'm unsure if there's an automatic provision for adding this guarantee to my pay (if it, in fact, applies), or if I need to contact crew skeds at some point to have the line credit applied.

Originally Posted by The Cavalier

From the DALPA blast mail that went out today. This assuming you have not already reported for the rotation. If you have, a whole other set of rules applies....

If he is removed from the first leg of a rotation, he must remain available for recovery flying as follows:

· If he is notified of the removal before reporting for the original rotation,
o He has no obligation to be contactable prior to the original report time. He
is essentially on short call beginning at the original report time and continuing for six hours, unless he is notified of a recovery assignment or released by Crew Scheduling prior to six hours.
o He may be notified, prior to the original report, of a recovery assignment. He is under no contact obligation, but may acknowledge such recovery assignment and then report at the scheduled report time for the recovery rotation.
o He may be assigned flying that reports on any day of the original rotation, but not earlier than his original report, and releases not later than four hours after his original release. An international category pilot may be assigned recovery flying scheduled to release not later than four hours after his original release, or same calendar day, provided the last duty period of the recovery flying contains an ocean crossing.
o If no recovery flying has been assigned by six hours after the original report time, the pilot is released with no further recovery obligation and retains full pay of the original rotation. The pilot is then free to pickup flying over the days of the original rotation and be paid for both rotations.

Also....

A regular pilot will be released from Section 23 K. recovery obligation if
· He requests to be released, and
· Waives his rotation guarantee, and
· Crew Scheduling agrees.

A regular pilot will be released from Section 23 K. recovery obligation if
· He requests to be released, and
· Waives his rotation guarantee, and
· The time until originally scheduled report is greater than 24 hours, and
· Reserves available are at least 50% of reserves required.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I hear there is a widebody order coming up and it may be Airbus.



Looks like one is already flying!

Originally Posted by dalad

Here's the deal as I understand it. If you are on a transition trip and ANYTHING cancels on it this month you are only paid for what legs you flew including minutes over. The trip guarantee then becomes a mini bow wave for Nov. It happened to me last month when a Jax turn was cancelled out of ATL mid rotation on the last day of the month. It was a transition trip, which ended on the first of Oct. I had a mini bow wave of 8+ this month. I am in the same boat as my trip now finishes tomorrow, but I am credited with 23+ hours for Dec. Clear as mud? You still get paid, but if you need the pay, just go negative bank (you can up to 30 hours) then just pay it back in Dec by using the bank deposit method.