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Old 01-03-2013 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Having to fund your own retirement and health care takes the "rich" out of "rich." It is not unfair, it simply is what it is. My father's generation could enjoy their money, buy toys, live like there was no tomorrow, because tomorrow was taken care of.
Bar,

You (as usual) bring up an interesting point...

Our pal Sailing likes to tell us how we are all doing better financially than we think (and much better than SWA). His accounting methodology requires one to add DAL's retirement contributions to one's W-2 earnings.

As someone who came to DAL during the years of the 60% FAE retirement, my methodology is different. I take my W-2 earnings and subtract from that my contributions to my 401K.

Numbers are illustrative: My best year was 2004 and my W-2 (as a First Officer no less) was just north of $215K. Last year (2012) my gross was just over $195K, but I contributed the max to my retirement ($22.5K). My math shows earnings of $172.5K but Sailing would say it should be $221K.

That's roughly a $50K difference. Maybe that's chump change to him but I can tell you I have a whole lot less discretionary income than I did eight years ago.
Old 01-03-2013 | 10:45 AM
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A while back a looney shut down both engines on a 76 out of LAX...restart,continues on to CVG... where was he living? In the Employee lot. There is always a reason.
Old 01-03-2013 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom
Bar,

You (as usual) bring up an interesting point...

Our pal Sailing likes to tell us how we are all doing better financially than we think (and much better than SWA). His accounting methodology requires one to add DAL's retirement contributions to one's W-2 earnings.

As someone who came to DAL during the years of the 60% FAE retirement, my methodology is different. I take my W-2 earnings and subtract from that my contributions to my 401K.

Numbers are illustrative: My best year was 2004 and my W-2 (as a First Officer no less) was just north of $215K. Last year (2012) my gross was just over $195K, but I contributed the max to my retirement ($22.5K). My math shows earnings of $172.5K but Sailing would say it should be $221K.

That's roughly a $50K difference. Maybe that's chump change to him but I can tell you I have a whole lot less discretionary income than I did eight years ago.
Sounds familiar. "Spin" has been a great tool for the masters.

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Old 01-03-2013 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar


Now that I've found a place to live, I can bid the 737 in Detroit.
  • Shelter - check
  • Nice deck - check
  • No gutters to clean - check
  • Exercise Equipment / GYM - check
  • Food - check
  • Washer Dryer - check
  • Spare Car - check
  • Refrigerator - check
  • Not really a camper so Delta's going to have a hard time kicking me out of the lot - check
  • Able to be relocated for less money than the relocation package provides - check
  • Mobile to base to base with constant displacements - check
  • Ford reliability and cheap parts - check
  • Racing camper on the roof? Who else has a racing camper on their roof?
  • No value worth stealing, or killing me for in Detroit - check
I'm in the top 1% of global incomes - yay!

The question remains ... truck nuts, or no truck nuts? Maybe some silver ones for the holidays?

Edit: If the phrase "truck nuts" violates the terms of service, please replace this poor phrasing with BumperBalls, CargoNads, Drive-thru Danglers, Trucksticles, HitchNuggets, Balls-on-a-truck, or, as they are known in the United Kingdom, Bumper Bollocks.
Yes, but does it have the "If this rig's a rockin, don't come a knocking' sticker?
Old 01-03-2013 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
A while back a looney shut down both engines on a 76 out of LAX...restart,continues on to CVG... where was he living? In the Employee lot. There is always a reason.
I have heard about that infamous flight.
Old 01-03-2013 | 11:08 AM
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Oh, but I thought there was no value in owning Mesaba, Compass or RIP, Comair.
Old 01-03-2013 | 11:29 AM
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Yeah!!!!! Delta adding new service from lax to sea and lax to bna!!!!!!!
Old 01-03-2013 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Yeah!!!!! Delta adding new service from lax to sea and lax to bna!!!!!!!
Waiting on the punchline.... Or is this real delta service???
Old 01-03-2013 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Yeah!!!!! Delta adding new service from lax to sea and lax to bna!!!!!!!
The end of two leg deadheads through SLC between SEA to LAX? Awesome!!
Old 01-03-2013 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Yeah!!!!! Delta adding new service from lax to sea and lax to bna!!!!!!!



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Typed what you wanted to type.
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