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Old 12-14-2012 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Why are you embarrassed? In my experience Delta takes excellent care of it's veteran customers. Flight Attendants often make a point of thanking them for their service, as do we pilots.

104 degree temperature, apparently did not get to the gate in time to board early, bought a ticket in the back, but somehow expected to be seated in the front, then angry because he could not change seats with a First Class passenger (who was apparently drawn into the situation and was willing to help), flight attendants told passengers to remain seated with the boarding door closed.

The sensationalistic tone of the story doesn't put the facts out there objectively. While a little flexibility might have gone a long way, they guy might have been just as uncomfortable getting up and going back to the front of the jet (which assumably would have required getting the wheel chair out in the aisle again). What would be your solution, Purple?

Link to Col. Knighton's Bio. She's an activist, with a cause: Colonel Christine B. “Nickey” Knighton U.S. Army (Ret.) | Home

and the author ....

Journalist Annie Groer has been a Washington Post gossip columnist and design writer ... A founding director of the Art Deco Society of Washington, she twice represented the District of Columbia in the National Chicken Cooking Contest and once danced across the Kennedy Center Stage with Liberace. She lives in Georgetown, where she is at work on her first book.
This is EXACTLY what I was going to say. We do a great job generally. This article was one-sided sensationalism. Someone with a 104 fever in a wheel chair was wheeled to the back of the plane to his seat. Doors closed. Other passenger activists were told to be seated as we departed. Done deal. Just because someone writes a sensationalist article decrying us, doesn't mean it's unilaterally true or we have to start flailing ourselves as unworthy...

And yes, I did 29 years in the mil and do know what I'm talking about. On today's flight I listened to over 30 "Thankyou for your service" comments from Delta folks to just two military guys on our flight. BOTH of them were offered seats in 1st class by passengers up there, and both of them were seated in 1st class. And it was a 45 min turn. And every seat was taken with one on the jump. And it was raining. And the mil guys got free drinks and snackage. And both stopped on their way out to say thanks for a great show from Delta.

I see that every day I fly the line. I NEVER see a bad act by Delta folks regarding military members. But I guarantee you, some liberal muckraker could easily write up even today's flight and attribute all the rules we follow (D0, seat belt light, stay seated, use lav in your section, phones off...) as an anti-military attitude, if all they did was write about how we made a mil person do all these... and never mentioned it's the same for every other person on the plane.

I read that article, and I said, "so what?". And as I grew up with a mil amputee in the family, I think I've seen enough regarding this to have a valid opinion, beyond just reading some activist anti-Delta article.
Old 12-15-2012 | 05:31 AM
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Maybe it wouldn't hurt us to adopt a bit of Virgin's attitude.
Flying nowadays is viewed by most people as an unpleasant experience. An unavoidable period of drudgery that just has to be endured if you want to get from point A to point B.

Air travel used to be seen as fun and sexy, even in the US.
There's no reason Delta couldn't bring those days back. Or at least try.






Old 12-15-2012 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
H e l l, they all look about 20 weeks.
Originally Posted by Vikz09
It looks like a few of these girls inhaled a qdoba burrito whole!
Call me crazy, but I like that body style, especially the one to the left

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Old 12-15-2012 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyZ
Hey, what is the name of that super skinny beard that you grow just along your jawline, connecting your sideburns to your goatee? Kind of an LA gang look, you know?

I saw one on one of the regional pilots flying Delta pax around today and was a little surprised. Maybe on a ramper it would work, but I figured even the regional guys must have some kind of appearance standards. Maybe not?
Not really.

One of the wildest of the bunch is on the list to flow through to Delta.
Old 12-15-2012 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
H e l l, they all look about 20 weeks.
They are British. If they have teeth, that's a 15 lb trade off.

You can tell they want the guy to hurry & snap the picture so they can exhale .... .
Old 12-15-2012 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Maybe it wouldn't hurt us to adopt a bit of Virgin's attitude.
Flying nowadays is viewed by most people as an unpleasant experience. An unavoidable period of drudgery that just has to be endured if you want to get from point A to point B.

Air travel used to be seen as fun and sexy, even in the US.
There's no reason Delta couldn't bring those days back. Or at least try.


Ahhhh, the days back when both pilots and stewardesses were young, thin, and in shape.
Old 12-15-2012 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Is he sure about that? Seriously, his recall rights might expire before we ever hire again. He might not get the chance.
As long as tbe pilot submits a letter of intent to return before the expiration of the recall rights, they can come back as long as they take the class offered when Delta calls.
Old 12-15-2012 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
As long as tbe pilot submits a letter of intent to return before the expiration of the recall rights, they can come back as long as they take the class offered when Delta calls.
I think the point was, that the ULTIMATE expiration of any recalls happens sometime in 2014.

If there are no hiring classes between now and then, the people on the sidelines will have missed the boat. I came back 2 years ago, at the point I thought the "return" gamble was approaching it's limit.

Delta has to be hiring for recalls to happen.
Old 12-15-2012 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Launchpad475
I think the point was, that the ULTIMATE expiration of any recalls happens sometime in 2014.

If there are no hiring classes between now and then, the people on the sidelines will have missed the boat. I came back 2 years ago, at the point I thought the "return" gamble was approaching it's limit.

Delta has to be hiring for recalls to happen.



True - but not for MIL LV guys returning. They can return as soon as their MIL service is over.

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Old 12-15-2012 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
As long as tbe pilot submits a letter of intent to return before the expiration of the recall rights, they can come back as long as they take the class offered when Delta calls.
Are you sure about that? I do not see that in the PWA. It specifcally says he has to return to duty within ten years from furlough. I do not see the word "intent".
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