Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1287267)

if the md-88 was in that first pic those girls would be in bikinis.

as for the last picture, that little girl is mad.. . it's not an 88.

actually screaming like a little girl was me at 5am when the kids got up. getting that extra hour meant nothing in my house.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1286687)

Make me President for a day ... I'll order CAP over our hubs ...

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1287269)

This should get a vote as the post of the decade. Its beyond true. You really wonder why so many bitterly unhappy people stick around.
I had a recent trip that really cracked me up. A recent new hire FO proceeded to lecture the other very senior FO on everything he and DALPA had done wrong. Then he jumped in on the terrible burden the pay cuts DALPA had just given away caused him. I was about to chime in on that when when the senior FO let loose. I think his statement was something like "Paycuts! What ****ing paycuts. All you have gotten is one raise after another plus a lump sum payment to front load your retirement! You have not taken a dime in paycuts. At that point I had to break things up because it was getting far to heated. I always find it amusing however when people who were not even there try and reinvent history and explain it to people who actually lived it. Reminds me of a quote a very funny NY Captain made in the lounge last year.
"I am not junior enough to know everything!"

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1287374)

young whippersnappers! Now listen to my wrong assessment of what DL is doing and even more wrong contract advice!

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1287120)

If DALPA can't do anything about AS adding routes(which they absolutely CAN'T just like DL management) then just exactly HOW are they ceding ground to a competitor? What do you expect them to do? Formally protest? And what do they protest? The marketing actions of a completely different airline? And how do we know that there is demand for more flights, simply because AS added routes? I really don't know what you expect DALPA to do. They successfully tightened the restrictions in the Alaska marketing agreement.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1287269)

This should get a vote as the post of the decade. Its beyond true. You really wonder why so many bitterly unhappy people stick around.
I had a recent trip that really cracked me up. A recent new hire FO proceeded to lecture the other very senior FO on everything he and DALPA had done wrong. Then he jumped in on the terrible burden the pay cuts DALPA had just given away caused him. I was about to chime in on that when when the senior FO let loose. I think his statement was something like "Paycuts! What ****ing paycuts. All you have gotten is one raise after another plus a lump sum payment to front load your retirement! You have not taken a dime in paycuts. At that point I had to break things up because it was getting far to heated. I always find it amusing however when people who were not even there try and reinvent history and explain it to people who actually lived it. Reminds me of a quote a very funny NY Captain made in the lounge last year.
"I am not junior enough to know everything!"

Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 1287292)

Source and time line.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1287406)

Maybe the reason pilots don't do cartwheels around here is that every month they see they're in about the same spot they've been for years. Gets old. And I don't mean just on the overall seniority list but also in their individual category if they've been there a while. And AEs seem to cause more anxiety than joy.

So I think when you start to see upwards movement and people who have been treading water start to move then the mood will pick up. And when folks aren't staring down MD's to MDs all of the time, they'll be a little happier.