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Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1300633)

Not to change the subject and don't know if this has been posted before but I kinda liked it.....

http://www.youtube.com/v/RU1oB8sGyYM

Denny

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1300676)

Before I take that bet, are you saying the company will never go after a pilot for not doing a newly required gatehouse/standup PA? Or are you saying merely that ALPA will never defend such a pilot in the first place?

Did you really ask that question? As in... DALPA would not defend a pilot for whatever the infraction? YHGTBSM.

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Originally Posted by denny crane (Post 1300615)

something my old man told me when i was young seems to fit here: "it's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it!!":)

i would agree with the people who say, if you are comfortable doing it, do it, if not, don't. The crowd can tell when someone is anxious and will pick up on it immediately.

Denny

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Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1300638)

Don't get your unmentionables in a bunch, it wasn't an attack. It only was a statement of the obvious: the best way to get a reaction from a rep, something you said you would love, is easily within your reach.

My rep says he's had little feedback on this issue except from a small numbers of us APC'ers.

I've yet to fly with anyone who's even noticed the bulletin. There would prob be a bit more uproar if they realized what it said.

Some wording needs to be changed and the every 15 minute thing is downright stupid.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1300450)

You have thought long and hard about this. You have a well put together argument. Send it to your rep or whomever else you want, and see what sort of response you get. At least take the time and tell them what you are thinking, and why.

I didn't think all that long and hard about it. IMO, it's pretty straight forward that this is what I described it to be. But I did consider other view points, and afterward felt my first impressions accurately summed up my view. I did write my reps. I've written them on two topics in the past, and in both instances received a very timely response. They're probably flying or busy with other work, and I'm confident I'll hear back from them soon.

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1300704)

Did you really ask that question? As in... DALPA would not defend a pilot for whatever the infraction? YHGTBSM.

You didn't RTFQ. He stated there would be no defense, because he was apparently implying that it would/could never get that far in the first place. I was just trying to get him to clarify that was what he meant, because his "bet" was that ALPA would never have to spend any resources defending a pilot for this.

The only way that could be the case is if either:

1. it will never, ever, under any circumstances, get that far, or:

2. if it did get that far, ALPA wouldn't defend the pilot(s) involved.

I was pointing out that either one of those was unlikely, and therefore he would easily lose his bet.

Don't be so spring loaded to defend ALPA that you do so when they weren't even attacked in the first place.

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1300794)

No, I read it. And I still stand my my question to you. Do you seriously believe that DALPA would not defend a pilot no matter what the infraction? If you do, you seriously need to call them and talk to them about that, because pilots have done some extremely STUPID stuff, and DALPA is REQUIRED to defend them. (I could cite one example of where the guy actually got his job back when a rep told me that the defense was a complete waste of time) It's what you pay dues for. That's not to say they can win, but the defense is mandatory. It is perfectly clear to me what he meant, and I tend to agree with him. This issue has gone into high warble for absolutely no reason. I am sure purple drank is about to pour gasoline all over himself and strike a match as we speak.

Ive had nothing but forty minute turns but I'm kind of excited about making gate PAs.

i mean there's nothing better than saying we don't know how long this is going to take because maintenance its sill trying to figure it out.

and when it comes to telling people we have no idea what's going on but we will let them know when we do, nobody does that better than a pilot.

and when it comes to telling people that the flight is cancelled and we will begin. ... run like hell.

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Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1300644)

So you're refuting your own point, but you don't want me to make this argument?

On the airplane, ONE person might get a visual of you, by sticking a phone in your face in the cockpit, but that would end up being a very short-lived activity. In a crowd at the gate house, ANY ONE passenger can get a nice visual of you making the announcement. And if the delay is bad enough, EVERYONE will want to be that person. It's not a question of whether you might make social media, but how many fb pages you'll make.

I was referring to the fact that they could record the audio on the airplane and giving you credit for what I thought you meant.