Let me restate then... My LEC isn't interested... I've asked.:mad:

Prediction: Everyone that has posted on this board will either be dead, or long finished with flying before one hammer swings at JFK to make any substantial improvements..

Actually I love JFK. No... really.

If I had the energy, I might think about that. I know after talking to my rep that the negotiators have told them (sic) "If there was any more we could have gotten in the JCBA.. we would have". It just seems to me that they threw out completely the great things about the NWA contract, and just reprinted ours. (coommuting policy, reinstatement rights.. etc..) So what good would a resolution do? I just don't have it in me to fight the dalpa bureaucracy. So I prefer to ***** about it here :D Hopefully the leadership will somehow get the message.

And there is also a group that represents, via proxy, the last NWA MEC Ch and the interests of the red book super premium wide-body contingent that has been at the root of most of the strife and class division at NWA for years.

They are plotting to resurrect their influence on the new MEC and continue to fight the last merger as well as this one and will push for a disproportionate piece of the pie. Of course they will come wrapped as the most reasonable, caring (and relatively junior) candidates, you can picture, but personally, due to their affiliations and demonstrated history with the former MEC Ch, I personally trust them as much as a homeless man would trust an old southern white guy republican to make his life better.

You already have the former NW MEC Ch and other Reps in the small WB bases canvasing support in DTW to influence the elections and "take DTW back".

Unfortunately due to their years of battling the green book former Republic pilots they are a very well organized group, and traditionally get the vote out in much higher percentages than the numerically superior middle of the pack and junior pilots in DTW.

I would expect a full court press from this group, and despite articulate well intentioned pilots running for Rep we could easily end up with more of the divisiveness that characterized the fNWA MEC.

Of course all the DTW pilots have to do stop this threat it to get out and vote otherwise "all that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing".

I for one do not want to see this MEC devolve back into the narrow interests, bitterness, 51% mandate, Machiavellian politics, and character assassination that was the hallmark of the previous fNWA MEC.

Did he mention the claim money ALPA got him, or did he conveniently leave that fact out?

Did you ask him to explain to you how unions get their bargaining power?

... and if union's get their power from the pilots they represent, wouldn't the opposite be true, outsourcing equals less power?

... and if you have less power, how are we going to negotiate higher rates for you, when other pilots are capable of flying the same mission for less?

... is he aware that ALPA justified signing a concessionary LOA which mostly effected MD88 pilots in part to secure flying from DCI. We do engage in concessionary whipsaw, even ALPA admits it. I keep telling folks, if you want more money you have to start by securing the flying.

I'm all for helping this guy reach his goal of higher compensation, but the way to get there is through unity - same as it always has been.

It all comes back to unity. If this guy thinks he can sell another pilot's work and take the benefit for himself he's not only justifying exploitation, he's also indicating he lacks the cognitive ability to understand the science of economics at even the most basic levels.

Little wonder he's finding it difficult to prepare for retirement. The first rule of getting rich is spending less than you earn. Each of us have the power to control our spending, but lack control over earnings. Taking money from the careers of more junior pilots will not fix his economic dilemma. As an economist, I would have told him that I'll buy my own beer and he should instead put $12 in his Roth Savings Account. ($8 Manhattan brewski, taxes, tip and opportunity cost). An FO turning down free beer would have left an impression on the free spending LCA and maybe would help cement the point in a friendly way that he should not be trying to "sell your job."

I am probably about the same seniority of this LCA. I care about scope. Do not lump everyone in the same pile.

Not all but many LCA view themselves as management. They parrot the company line. So take anything they say with a grain of salt.

Can anyone tell me what flights out of JFK are going seasonal? I noticed in the Sept bid package that we are no longer flying JFK-BOG and wondered what else is getting paired down. Thanks.

Man, we have some 20 somethings that post here quite a bit, you really think that terminal can last that long?

I do not mind JFK either. Great for the pocket book!

Scope needs to be the number 1 issue for the LEC/MEC. If it is not, wholesale changes will be needed at the LEC level to effect the MEC.

They are an extension of management and are expected to act accordingly.

37 potential years left :eek: