hoserpilot

Don't worry T. Even though I saw you I still couldn't pick you out of a police line up. Unless you were wearing a short sleeve shirt with a tie.

tsquare

I know that grievance cannot be filed until on is broached. that being said, Maybe ftb can put his research prowess to work and show us how many flights between countries we have vs what AF/KLM has. 50% is fine, but what sailing was saying.. I think.. is that AF can fly more because UAL and CAL and USA and AA all have flights between countries too. I don't care about any of them. Our agreement is that we have 50% of all that flying, then we should have 50% of all that flying. If AF adds something.. then we should too. Or grieve it.

Still waiting for my call back from DALPA.

Free Bird

Any future language should resemble: Non-compliance with JV's prohibits the company from entering into any other JV's until the corrections are made. Furthermore, all Delta pilots get immediate 10% pay raises until the balances are complied with. Under no circumstances will the corrections take more than 12 months.

If we can't get compliance with our written SCOPE then we are in big trouble.

Superpilot92

This X 2!!!

nwaf16dude

Anybody care to take a stab at our profit sharing percentage based on the projected 1.6 billion from yesterday's investor conference?

gloopy

Aw come on, what's a few percent between friends? You wouldn't want to risk endangering the constructive engagement, would you?

50% is really 49.75% which is really a moving average betwee 45% and 56%, where we will stall out at 45% and renegotiate the new 50% (49.75%) for our new half of the lower baseline. On the bright side, VAus gets 2:1 but we preemptively capped that to only 3:1, and VAtl is proudly saying our future JV with them will cause them to grow. Gol was supposed to be a domestic Brasilian JV, but aftet the ink was dry they said they would be spamming as many US markets as they can physically reach.

Anyway I hope we stick to our JV greivance with no mercy the second the company is out of compliance. They are basically saying they intend on being significantly out of balance during the remedy period and don't seem concerned in the slightest about it, almost counting on us just accepting it. Just like all contracts (except pilot contracts) they will point to mean Air France and say "a contract is a contract, we just can't get out of it, mah bad". Maybe DALPA should get the same kinds of "iron clad" contracts for our pilots that the company signs with all the third party providers.

sailingfun

Actually 3 times, pm sent on who to call.

sailingfun

You are confusing what I said. I referred to flying to and from France only and the political realities involved. The JV involves all flying to Europe. Currently we fly about 55 percent of the departures verses 45 percent for AF/KLM. The metric in the agreement is EASK . “EASK” means equivalent available seat kilometers, a measurement of capacity adjusted for an aircraft's seat density and cargo capacity, as defined and calculated in the 45 AF/KL/AZ JV agreement.
We are at around 47 percent with that metric.

76drvr

Roughly 5% of pre-tax income will be the pilots portion of the profit sharing.

Bucking Bar

6% ..........