Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Straight QOL, homie
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Can't abide NAI
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Oh, better not.
"so do you fly to the same places all of the time? Like the same route?"
Well, that's not exa.... yes, yes I do.
"really where do you go?" Columbus and St Louis... with a side of Dayton.
"oh. Is that boring?" Yes.
"what kind of jet do you fly?"
An old one that's not considered old, because we have even older airplanes.
"is it a regional jet?" No, it can't fly that far.
"is it safe? do you ever get scared?"
Bucking Bar has a list of like 30 reasons my airplane is a death trap. So I guess so.
"who is Bucking Bar?"
I'm not on the internet anymore am I? Talking to real people is hard.
On Saturday? I'm volunteering and then we have a Christmas get together where I answer this question...
"so do you fly to the same places all of the time? Like the same route?"
"what kind of jet do you fly?"
"is it safe? do you ever get scared?"
"who is Bucking Bar?"
"so do you fly to the same places all of the time? Like the same route?"
Well, that's not exa.... yes, yes I do.
"really where do you go?" Columbus and St Louis... with a side of Dayton.
"oh. Is that boring?" Yes.
"what kind of jet do you fly?"
An old one that's not considered old, because we have even older airplanes.
"is it a regional jet?" No, it can't fly that far.
"is it safe? do you ever get scared?"
Bucking Bar has a list of like 30 reasons my airplane is a death trap. So I guess so.
"who is Bucking Bar?"
I'm not on the internet anymore am I? Talking to real people is hard.
Can't abide NAI
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
When you considered how it was "engineered" its safety record is really remarkable man.
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Half a billion dollars just to consolidate two terminals where no one connects now anyway? Oh, and a slightly better rental car center.
And just where are they getting that much money to throw around? Oh yeah, that's right, raising fees sucking more money out of the local economy and magical free "federal grant" money! LOL!

Sounds like someone is trying to get their friends some sweet contract gigs. At least they're not throwing money they don't have to LCC's in a futile attempt to generate the nonexistant "Southwest effect" of an "LCC". Oh wait...

If that thing was written on April 1st I wouldn't have believed it because of how stupid it is. Something in all that mentioned 2027. That nonsense will be scrubbed long before then when they realize they have no way to pay for it.
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I was hired in late 99 at NWA and merged in with DAL guys hired in Feb of 01. The only thing I could consistently hold a line every month on in ATL is the 88 or the 9. I'm still 1500 numbers below the most junior captain system-wide. I often fly with captains who think I'm exaggerating or just plain wrong when I tell them I'm still years away from a captain seat. Hopefully the 717 showing up will break the log jam. I also have a bro hired about the same time at CAL, who just got a 75/76 captain bid. He'll be giving up his 787 right seat to upgrade.
To bad we could not have a huge APC office pool and all pick a month when we will start hiring. Let see with 392 retirements between now and 2016 ... I guess I will go with interviews in fall of 2015 and first class on Feb 10 2016. Of course that assumes we replace the 392 pilots that retire. If we are going for the 9000 pilot airline I want a second pick and I will go with fall of 2017 interviews with a 7 Feb 2018 class start date.
You all should be careful I was only 24 days off on my office pool for Delta furlough recall and everybody thought I was crazy for guessing 5 years 3 months.
Yes, yes Sailing, I know we are going to have more block hours and all but according to a LEC rep who now says we are a 1000 pilots fat and Ed Bastians comments (see below) it appears that they intend to man the airline with the efficiency's gained in the contract. (that was my bad, I voted yes because truthfully I guess I did not fully comprehend the efficiency's that were gained. With letters from SD say possible hiring in fall of 2012 and the union saying 3000 new hires and such... I took hook line and sinker. Once again my bad.)
Ed Bastian - President
Well, there is lot of moving pieces in that because there was a significant amount of productivity overtime in that contract that helps us manage the seasonality peak that I was talking about. So that inflow plus there is a lot of benefit from the contract in the form of these 76-seats swaps and been able to increase the 76-seat count and return for getting 60-seaters out. So there is lot of pieces that move in and out of the economics of that transaction, but with that said, once we get to 65 we will have a significant number of retirements and we don't anticipate being in a situation where we have pilot hiring in 2013 as we sit today, but obviously as people hit the 65 age limitation, we will be hiring at the bottom of the seniority list. We haven't done an analysis of what the trade off is there, but overall the pilot contract and when you take the totality of all the terms, the productivity, the scope clause and the flexibility that gives us to be able to manage the business to the peak, its all in a good yield in terms of the overall profitability of the airline.
They took a simple airplane that works really well and stretched it... and it still kind of worked. Cap the max altitude at 37,000, and kind of work long time.
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