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Originally Posted by Imapilot2
(Post 1318033)
Let me get this straight, you just said that TW made Delta Air Lines sign Pinnacle's scope clause? Don't get me wrong, we(DALPA) should have been there but maybe, just maybe you should be pointing the finger at OUR guy LM. Also let it be said, again I don't like how it went but they get an interview(something DAL pilots don't control) and planes that WE just signed off on. Nothing else. My guess is that Lee Moak was off the clock when this was put together. He may be a signatory to the TA, but I doubt he'll have any necessity to scrutinize it or be briefed on it, until it comes time to put pen to paper. So then he can burn another airline down, just like Duane Woerth did to CC Air. Either way - at some point, even if its in a galaxy far far away, we'll need to hire. This 9E TA is simply a good indication or the company's upcoming staffing desperation. UA is spinning numbers of hiring 400-600 just to cover work rule changes. AAL will be hiring once all their furloughs are back. And we, will wait, until the last possible minute, and then have an entire airline to evaporate at the rate of 12 a month. Which isn't even close to what we'll need to interview a month, but it puts negative pressure on the urgency to lead the pack in terms of our PWA to attract the best, and most qualified real applicants. |
Originally Posted by SailorJerry
(Post 1318063)
And that will be the argument of all the fine folks in the upper echelon of the 4th floor who thought that this would be a good idea.
My guess is that Lee Moak was off the clock when this was put together. He may be a signatory to the TA, but I doubt he'll have any necessity to scrutinize it or be briefed on it, until it comes time to put pen to paper. So then he can burn another airline down, just like Duane Woerth did to CC Air. Either way - at some point, even if its in a galaxy far far away, we'll need to hire. This 9E TA is simply a good indication or the company's upcoming staffing desperation. UA is spinning numbers of hiring 400-600 just to cover work rule changes. AAL will be hiring once all their furloughs are back. And we, will wait, until the last possible minute, and then have an entire airline to evaporate at the rate of 12 a month. Which isn't even close to what we'll need to interview a month, but it puts negative pressure on the urgency to lead the pack in terms of our PWA to attract the best, and most qualified real applicants. While I strongly suspect Lee Moak was involved, I don't have any proof. This is straightforward based solely on the Bridge Agreement itself. No need to muddy the issue with innuendo. |
Originally Posted by SailorJerry
(Post 1318063)
And that will be the argument of all the fine folks in the upper echelon of the 4th floor who thought that this would be a good idea.
That is why ALPAs internal processes have to work. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1318114)
They broke the Mechanic's union. This is potentially fatal to ALPA on the Delta property.
That is why ALPAs internal processes have to work. |
Hey, how 'bout them Seahawks!! 150 points in 3 games! I think the 49ers are still wondering what hit them!!!:D
Denny |
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1318156)
Hey, how 'bout them Seahawks!! 150 points in 3 games! I think the 49ers are still wondering what hit them!!!:D
Denny |
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1318156)
Hey, how 'bout them Seahawks!! 150 points in 3 games! I think the 49ers are still wondering what hit them!!!:D
Denny Signed, a bitter STL Lambs..I mean Rams fan. :o :D |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1317988)
I'm amazed you think otherwise works. :eek:
Perhaps you can provide an example of a group that's been successful with a strong arm method? Maybe UAL/CAL? Or APA? Or......or.......or USAPA? Pffftttt....I can't do this anymore. I can't....stop......lau.....laugh......laughing!!!! :p There are increasing events where management is not engaging DALPA when they could (330-300 CROT, Virgin Atlantic, PCL Bridge) and have simply jammed it to DALPA yet the usual suspects are clinging to the "RA thinks the pilots are important" line while he is probably laughing at the MEC's lack of backbone. I'm sure they are sad to see O'Malley go. RA is not your Daddy's DAL CEO - he is mean lean, probably the best airline manager in the world and is no friend of labor. If anyone thinks he's the pilots friend they are being led perilously astray. Engagement is working for RA, I question it's continuing value to us if trends continue. |
Originally Posted by SailorJerry
(Post 1318063)
And that will be the argument of all the fine folks in the upper echelon of the 4th floor who thought that this would be a good idea.
My guess is that Lee Moak was off the clock when this was put together. He may be a signatory to the TA, but I doubt he'll have any necessity to scrutinize it or be briefed on it, until it comes time to put pen to paper. So then he can burn another airline down, just like Duane Woerth did to CC Air. . |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1318114)
They broke the Mechanic's union. This is potentially fatal to ALPA on the Delta property.
That is why ALPAs internal processes have to work. |
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