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What IF...

We (and by we I mean DALPA) were able to negotiate a NEW pay rate for all the 757 replacements, ie. all 737's and all A319/320/321's, to equal 757/767 pay?

Hummmm....

Then would we be beoching about getting new (used), little airplanes?

I was very dissapointed in the last T/A, that they didn't put the 717 at the same rate as the MD88/90. What I would like to see is, all the narrow bodies, pay the same, and all the wide bodies pay the same. The arguement you make to management is, it will save you a Bazzillion dollars in training, and will reduce the need to hire, since fewer pilots will be locked up in training.

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Originally Posted by Desperado (Post 1320307)

Give me the oldest, tiredest, most worn out 75 out there, before making me FOLLOW the newest, shineyest, underpowered 321.

Well, you know what that Patrick Henry said centuries ago.

"Give me 757s, or give me death!"

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Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 1320260)

Where? And who were the original owners?

Kingfisher??

TEN

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1320271)

Uh......bonjour. :D

Ha! You beat me to it.

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Originally Posted by Desperado (Post 1320307)

The only pilots that I can think of that would be happy to see Delta get a321's, would be the pilots that are currently being forced to fly them. Give me the oldest, tiredest, most worn out 75 out there, before making me FOLLOW the newest, shineyest, underpowered 321.

At this point, I think there's a lot of pilots that would be happy to see Delta get IL-76s or AN-2s if Delta pilots would be the ones flying them....

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1320301)

The 739 pays more than the 800/700 right?

The 321 MTOW is above 200,000 lbs.

Yep, the 739 will pay more. The 738 paid more than the -700 for awhile. I can't remember the resolution on that but they brought the pay scales together at some point. Seems that Quito and/or international pay rings a bell.

I'd love to see the 321s if they were growth aircraft or RJ replacements, but not as a 757 replacement. I doubt it's in the cards anyway, if we wanted A321s we could have them tomorrow, don't need Kingfisher to dump theirs.

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1320329)

Well, we kind of set up an incentive there to get rid of the 88s didn't we? Raise 88 pay to 90 pay? Hooray! But maybe its encouragement to get rid of the 88 and push all those pilots to the lesser paying 717.

Of course, there is a catch. The 88/90 both pay less than a category where 45% of the airplanes are 34 seats smaller than the 90 and the rest are 11 seats smaller.

So that may make those rates palatable and buy us some extra time with the elongated never die 9.

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Originally Posted by contrails (Post 1320343)

Well, you know what that Patrick Henry said centuries ago.

"Give me 757s, or give me death!"

And Patrick Henry Field (PHF) now just says "GIVE ME ANYTHING BUT A CRJ-200!!!!"

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Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1320306)

But the 757-200 and 757-300 pay the same.. (as the 767-200 and 767-300)... I'm just playing devil's advocate... I think there should be more pay for more people/cargo.

So should the 757 be paid less than the -ER?

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1320408)

So should the 757 be paid less than the -ER?

T,

It all depends on how you phrase it!! I'll answer by saying the -ER should be paid more than it is now!!!:)

Denny