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Bucking Bar 12-18-2012 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1314635)
There are going to be a few names that will be a gauge to how well it works. A number of the people at the top of the 9E list shouldn't be trusted with flying an airliner...

... and those are my concern as well.

Ironic that Slowplay, who is going to have to work with them is unconcerned. We will be too close in seniority to have one of these guys in our right seat and that point is so far off in the future that mortality tables probably have more bearing on the issue than bidding.

Mesabah 12-18-2012 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1314632)
That certainly wasn't what you argued regarding Compass...they didn't have Delta seniority numbers either.



Nice straw man. Try again.

I thought the Compass issue was a Hail Mary pass to get some of the E175's flying at the mainline.

Bucking Bar 12-18-2012 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1314645)
absolutely.

I AM NOT PAYING DUES MONEY TO FURTHER A DCI PILOT'S CAREER.

DALPA can't even adequately represent us. Wasting any of our dues money on pilots not on our list is inept, inane, and incomprehensible.

We will see what happened. Hard to tell, yet. If this comes to pass perhaps a group needs to get together and go to Flight Ops Management and voice our specific concerns.

Once they are here they are Delta pilots and deserving of the respect and representation that gets them.

XtremeF150 12-18-2012 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1314634)
but compass plus had a NWA interview, so yeah they didn't have a number but they had cleared a mainline sanctioned interview and all of them were to flow meaning they would have a number without another interview process, right?

Bingo. How many of these PNCL guys have sit through a NWA captain/HR panel interview? Also had the NWA medical and 727 SIM (which was probably useless butttt..)

Mesabah 12-18-2012 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by XtremeF150 (Post 1314653)
Bingo. How many of these PNCL guys have sit through a NWA captain/HR panel interview? Also had the NWA medical and 727 SIM (which was probably useless butttt..)

There will be an interview before you can flow that much we know so far. It probably won't be as difficult as off the street though.

acl65pilot 12-18-2012 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1314655)
There will be an interview before you can flow that much we know so far. It probably won't be as difficult as off the street though.

Huh?


Interview before a flow? Wouldn't that just mean guaranteed interviews and at some sort of rate per month or class, not really a flow? That is what that sounds like to me.

They kick the degree requirement too?

XtremeF150 12-18-2012 06:16 PM

I really hope that the PNCL guys aren't clueless enough to fall for some false pretense of a flow anyway. Since the CP/XJ guys get first dibs even BEFORE off the street hires as is stated in our contract It would be a long time before any 9E guy sees a Delta #. They need to read this TA for what it is and base their decision on what is within regardless of flow or not.

A lot going on this week. American voted in a new contract, United voted in a new contract and 9E has a TA coming their way for vote. Things moving quickly.

Bucking Bar 12-18-2012 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1314632)
That certainly wasn't what you argued regarding Compass...they didn't have Delta seniority numbers either.

Nice straw man. Try again.

The Delta MEC represented Compass. That was the structure in place. As stated earlier, the only true path to unity is a merger. I supported giving them Delta numbers as a solution to the created representational crisis. Had we done so we may have captured not only the 1990's 717 type but the next generation of 90 to 100 seat jet that Delta has found 4 billion to buy new.

Perhaps NWA should have bought us and had the Delta pilots a flow through. How would you have liked that? We could just let management whipsaw NWA and Delta within the Delta Holdings structure.

Obviously we would not allow that and our contractual gains would have been impossible without real unity, a merger.

Flow throughs are a cheap, cynical way of undermining unity. It disgusts me when our union facilitates outsourcing.

XtremeF150 12-18-2012 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1314655)
There will be an interview before you can flow that much we know so far. It probably won't be as difficult as off the street though.

Ok maybe someone should define flow? I'm confusicated n stuff ;)

Scoop 12-18-2012 06:19 PM

DCI Flows to DAL
 
I'm sure 80% of these guys would be just fine. As to the other 20% - well I bet DAL management wishes it could have a do over on some of our guys also, although I think the number would be pretty small.

My question is about DAL hiring minimums. Do all of the DCI guys have a 4 year degree? If not, is DAL going to drop this requirement or will they be required to get a degree?

What about seeing the shrink etc? If these guys don't have to do all of this then why did we do it in the first place? :confused:

Scoop


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