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I am going on record that the graffiti is NOT me!!!! Thought about it....restrained myself...drew puppet on Paper bag for captain, instead....guess I will have to settle for the F/A's cat carriers when they're busy stealing the crew meals for Fluffy....
This is specific graffitti that is being placed in M88 and M90, mainly around the FO's side of the cockpit and our "bag closet" in the back. It is something specific that got managements attention, I presume b/c it means something and they're ****ed!
Just a word of caution to whomever is doing it....
Just a word of caution to whomever is doing it....
What does it say?
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So the "mandatory" 9 hours prior check is ILLEGAL. Both scheduling and DALPA will try to talk you into doing this but if you press the issue and point out that it is illegal, they back off. If they don't, call the FAA and tell them you have a mandatory obligation to the company within your 24 hour mandatory 30 in 7 rest period and see how far they want to take it in the name of "productivity".
Now, if they want to force you to schedule check, or even report, immediately at the end of your 24 hour rest, that's fair game and they can do it. BUT, if they do that, then that is considerted a break in rest and will count when you need to look back to find your min 8/9 hours rest for a subsequent duty period. So a 5 AM report or Short Call really becomes a 00:01 duty in because at 5 AM you can't look back and find rest until you get to the actual rest period free from duty, which was the end of your mandatory rest.
The company obviously wants us to obey "past practice" and violate the FAR's on this because it helps them staff less pilots, and DALPA wants us to look the other way because they don't want to spend constructive engagement capital on this, but an FAR is an FAR.
While on mandatory rest, you have NO OBLIBATION whatsoever to the company. Period.
Now, they CAN assign you something that starts one minute (or any time) after your mandatory 24 hour rest, IF, and only if, they notify you of it prior to the start of your mandatory rest. But legally don't have the flexibility to put things on your line while you are on that rest, require you in any way during that rest to check it, and then use the time between the end of your mandatory rest and the start of your assignment as retroactive rest. If there is nothing on your schedule at the start of your mandatory 24 hour FAR rest, then you are off the hook for 24 hours. Then you are either on long call, or if there is something on your line under 8 hours from then, your duty day starts the minute your 24 hour rest period is over, otherwise you are doing an illegal assignment per the FAR's. The only exception to that is if you freely choose to check your schedule and self-notify. But that is 100% your choice and it is a violation of the FAR rest period for the company to, in any way, require you to do this.
Stay legal.
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Considering the two primary DALPA guys are out of a job, it will be a bit more subtle from now on. Karnak pops up here and there, but that's about it.
With them out of FPL, and I gave Purple a warning to chill out... it may be a bit less colorful on that line of things.
With them out of FPL, and I gave Purple a warning to chill out... it may be a bit less colorful on that line of things.
Spent 22 minutes on hold with crew accommodations this morning trying to book a back end DH hotel, then gave up. Trying to find a good fit for the FCR but nothing jumps out. Guess I'll just put it under CP support center and hope for the best.
Sure would be nice if there was a place to book it in iCrew and then have it show up on your line when the Karma struck them. Guess I'll try again this afternoon.......wish me luck.
Ferd
Update: Just tried again and they picked up on the second ring. Bingo Bango, done in about 30 seconds. Soooooo, never mind.
Sure would be nice if there was a place to book it in iCrew and then have it show up on your line when the Karma struck them. Guess I'll try again this afternoon.......wish me luck.
Ferd
Update: Just tried again and they picked up on the second ring. Bingo Bango, done in about 30 seconds. Soooooo, never mind.
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RA's letter to employees and his 2013 flight plan is on Dnet. Looks like the international a/c are really getting wifi. Groovy. Terminal 4 at JFK done in May. Groovy. West coast improves by using Alaska and others. Not groovy. Work for a profitable company. Very groovy.
Stay safe tonight everyone. Happy new year.
Stay safe tonight everyone. Happy new year.
Happy New Year bro's! Let's make 2013 another industry ass kicking year for DAL! Be safe tonight.
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No kidding. Now I want to go looking for it but I'm afraid a mechanic might see me and assume I'm admiring my own handiwork! Guess I'm just not very observant because, other than the various flipper comments, the only thing I've seen is a lame reference to the headset jacks being chopstick holders.
Time to start paying attention at work I guess.
Time to start paying attention at work I guess.
ok that's 6 to 9 rumors on A321s...so someone post a pic/drawing of one in DAL colors...
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The FAR's would beg to differ. While on mandatory rest you are free from ANY and ALL obligations to the company, to include ANY and ALL telephone or other availability.
So the "mandatory" 9 hours prior check is ILLEGAL. Both scheduling and DALPA will try to talk you into doing this but if you press the issue and point out that it is illegal, they back off. If they don't, call the FAA and tell them you have a mandatory obligation to the company within your 24 hour mandatory 30 in 7 rest period and see how far they want to take it in the name of "productivity".
Stay legal.
Don't set people up to get themselves handed a no show because they read what you wrote. It's simply not the way things are done. Never said I like it, or support it, because its a massive detriment to my quality of life, but it is, even if you whine about it, the way it is.
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