Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1348646)

Actually some opted for the street but they were all offered jobs. Where did that Delta go ?

Originally Posted by DelDah Capt (Post 1348632)

go and treat yourself to some of Queen's finest Chinese Take-out

Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1348651)

Hah! I already did. There's only around 1" of snow right now and the worst has slid off to the east. There's one more band, but it doesn't look bad. Only flurries now and the snow plow has already gone past twice.

Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1348601)

Looks like Emperor Nemo had no ball$$. The non big snow event is sliding right by NYC.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1348415)

No, this VP was pre-carpet bagger days, back when Delta lived by C.E. Woolman's motto; Hire good people, treat them right, they'll keep the customers happy, and Delta will be successful. After the controller strike and economic downturn of 1981-83, Delta was the only Major who didn't furlough anyone. That's why when, in 1983, they ordered the (new) 767's, the employees contributed enough money to buy the first one, as a show of gratitude for not furloughing. In 1985, Delta had been number 1 in Customer Satisfaction for 17 straight years. Until Mo'Ron took over, Delta had NEVER lost money for a single quarter, let alone a full year!

Then, in 1987, Dave Garrett retired, and instead of picking Hollis Harris (the guy who talked to our newhire class) the board chose Ron Allen as the new CEO...

Ron bought Pan Am, paid 3x too much for it, going into a huge recession in 1991, and for the first time in Delta's history, started furuloughing people in 1993. His famous quote, when asked if that would have a negative impact on all employee morale, was, "So Be It".

Ron was so bad, the board finally fired him (didn't renew his contract) and hired Leo Mullen, who WAS the KING of Outsoucing! Leo came from McKinsey Associates, an outsourcing consulting firm.

It was Leo and his underling, Fred Reid, who bought 600 RJ's, gave them to Com Air and ASA, to replace our narrow body flying.

Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 1348672)

So shouldn't the board bear a lot if not most of the responsibility for placing those individuals at the helm?

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1348665)

There was some debate as to how powerful it would be over NYC. I read some were forecasting as little as 2 inches of snow in NYC. But I'm not sure NYC is in the clear yet. The heavy snow is forecasted for later this evening.

Regardless, this is what passengers get now. Airlines take the conservative road imposing thousands of cancellations in advance. Frustrated, angry passengers can thank Katie Hanni.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1348677)

Yup, but you know what?

They still get paid, and they all have day jobs so they don't have to suffer the consequences like we do. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1348637)

"Usually" the LCA will just tell you to go home, no recovery flying. BUT...there are some circumstances where he may have you ride along in the jumpseat or in back, for a leg or two, just in case the new guy ain't ready to rock and roll.

Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1345196)

Re: "Latency" Bulletin:
As someone else mentioned, Delta is getting big into "data mining."
When compared to our competitors data-set, our structural deficiencies or operational issues start to becomes evident.

As pilots while we might not have the "big picture," we do have a front row seat to the operation and if asked would be able to put our finger on quite a few issues...
Of course most of the time we end up greasing the skids to make the whole operation run without a hitch and on time. There are many little things as cockpit crews we do daily that facilitate a smooth operation. When we stop doing that, the whole operations takes a big hit.

Unfortunately this proactive approach helps mask operational or structural issues in other departments...issues that never get fixed because their negative effects are being continuously mitigated by cockpit crews. It's like a minor squawk you don't put in the book. Three weeks later you get the same jet and it still has the squawk because nobody else has put it in the book...

That's how I read the memo, nothing more, nothing less.

But here's a look at a blip of the "Data" that most likely triggered the memo:
Our taxi times from OUT to OFF compared to our competitorsAs you can see, on average, Delta aircraft spend 5-10 minutes more on the ground from OUT to OFF...
And while I don't have the data, I'd imagine the numbers in ATL to look about the same, thus the attempt at "pushing on the 45" to save time.

Obviously when viewed through the data mining lens, these minutes become accretive and suddenly we "recover" several aircraft/day by adding up all the time.
The motivation here is doing more with less. We've shrunk to the point where any further cuts in capacity have big negative affects on CASM and these efforts are a an attempt to gain some wiggle room.

Cheers
George