I can agree that substantial damage was done to the US part 121 profession with c-scale pilots flying our planes, pilots would have walked off the job over this just ten years ago, well APA and SWAPA would have. What I have a major problem with is making the same stupid decisions over and over hoping for a better outcome each time. Lastly, for all I know you could be some zit faced intern reading tuner car or world of warcraft magazine on the fourth floor; I don't really care. The best position for a guy like you is handling the aftermath of families destroyed or otherwise uprooted through whipsawing between regionals. Maybe you could have dinner with a RJ pilot and his family and explain why he's going from CRJ-50 captain to CRJ-900 FO on probation instead of flying the same jet or better at Delta. My intent is to highlight our mistakes, to the maximum extent possible, so next time we can break the chain. It won't end, I'm relentless. You don't know my background, few on here do. If I had made your mistake I couldn't even face my peers let alone look at myself in the mirror.

 

Carl - this isn't political revolution, this isn't Fox News, this isn't being anti-American, this isn't about anything except Delta Air Lines. The war you perceive doesn't exist. It was over when the TA passed and when DPA martyred themselves. It's over. You can be a revolutionary all you want but it's not going to do any good here.

 

"Your" flying was voluntarily outsourced and Delta Air Lines, with the permission of its pilot group created the regional jet. I don't care what SWAPA or APA would have done. It's what DALPA didn't do that got us into this mess. What decision has been made over and over? Could you explain what insanity you see? Because I don't see it. It's like your history book is out of date and you're about 18 months behind.

I'll leave the aftermath of destroying regionals to Ryan Gumm - he's actually good at it. I have no desire to work as management at Delta. I don't think I'd fit in with the corporate culture. In fact, I admittedly don't fit in with the Delta culture period. But I'm here. On the same seniority list as you. I just happen to have an opinion that differs from yours. I don't even really know what your take on reality is. Most of what I've been seeing is like tending to data outside two standard deviations. It's there, but you don't know why.

What mistake is it that you think I made? I don't recall many mistakes that you'd know anything about. And I certainly don't remember being wrong.

 

And the next round is starting tonight! I'm just glad Carl is back in action to give me more entertaining stuff to read. It's like the Yang to the Yin that is alfalfa/slowplay.

 

You have a real grasp of the obvious.

O.........K.........

This is what I'm talking about man. These types of ridiculous diversionary tactics don't work. You only look like someone with a short attention span. Stay on topic. Focus......focus.

No it's not. It's about the union we pay to represent us. It's about the actions of our union and to what extent they've earned our trust.

I perceive of no war. I only see your actions that are right out of Alinsky's book. Specifically, denigrate and divert when you don't have the truth on your side. If you don't like the comparison, stop earning it.

Calling out those who can't be direct is always a good thing. Whether it does any good or not is immaterial.

Carl

 

80ktsClamp: remember.. Back is best!

 

We. Don't. Know. How. Much. DALPA. Left. On. The. Table. Or. Why. They. Ignored. The. Survey. Results.

 

…the seventh rule is: A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.

Discuss.

Or would you like to start from rule 1 so I can point out how everything you've said about me could be said about yourself?

And do you mind telling me what I'm being dishonest about? It's like you're afraid of a ghost.

 

Do you have the transcript from negotiations or the actual survey results?

…The eleventh rule is: If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside.

Keep at it! Viva la resistance! The red coats are coming!

 

Carl,

Welcome back! Although we don't always agree 100% its great to have you back. Like most of the posts on here - even if I don't agree with the poster - I can usually learn something, and am often better off for it.

Scoop