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iaflyer 02-18-2013 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1355240)
And now with an increase in taxes: 4/6/1/1

Oh, so you're saying we got a 2% pay raise in 2011 and 2012? Great, I forgot to add that to my pay rates from those years, I'll have go back and add that in. :rolleyes:

My point is, that the 2% was a tax holiday for those two years, not an decrease in our payrates as of 1/1/13.

tsquare 02-18-2013 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1355064)
Thanks. Those are nice financial calculators.

Your welcome. They are the best I have found.

forgot to bid 02-18-2013 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1355256)
Oh, so you're saying we got a 2% pay raise in 2011 and 2012? Great, I forgot to add that to my pay rates from those years, I'll have go back and add that in. :rolleyes:

My point is, that the 2% was a tax holiday for those two years, not an decrease in our payrates as of 1/1/13.

It's a one way street with me, the lower rate is the way it should be.

http://www.csicon.net/wp-content/upl...34ba7e7b33.jpg

UncleSam 02-18-2013 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by volav8r1 (Post 1355063)
At the bottom of the screen click the Save button. It's labled "PF12" I think.

It's in reference to the F keys across the top of your computer keyboard, but the button on the screen will work as well.

Flamer 02-18-2013 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1355240)
And now with an increase in taxes: 4/6/1/1

Woops, don't forget to back out inflation.

2/4/-1/-1

But at least you'll be paying less taxes on your profit sharing check.

scambo1 02-18-2013 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1355147)
My feeling has been while there are a lot of things I would love to see change here at DAL, I am comfortable with the direction this Management team is going. How it all translates for numero uno is always the key. My sense is that given what UAL and AMR still need to do, (it could be really ugly just labor wise on their sides) their costs will out strip revenue shortly. IOW, we have already covered our pilot costs today and are on par or exceeding year end profits in contrast to all other legacies. It is fair to say they better have a few tricks up their sleeves to cover the coming significant increases in wages.

I think I know what you are saying...Something to the effect of DALs strong YOY financials tower over UAL/AA. The Unical contract (roughly) matches DAL's. AA's not so much, but with the merger, they will get an opportunity to renegotiate. And you are happy to be at a financially strongish (based on profit) company. Therefore, you are happy with Mgmt's "vector."

You also wonder, just for the sake of arguement, how Unical and USAA are going to cover their contractual increases without the benefit of vastly higher profits. Because US profit, while good, has an extremely cheap pilot contract and AA isn't kicking butt either with a currently cheap contract.

IMO, from a macro view I agree with your observation. But, also there are too many moving pieces both in play and yet to be seen that makes it way too difficult to compare us to them until the dust settles a lot.

scambo1 02-18-2013 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1355166)
I would say its a combination of personality types.
We are maybe one half pacifist/apathetic and one half ex-military junior officers who are accustomed to "chain of command" organizations. Their tendency is not to try and shape policy but to just salute and execute the plans sent from above.

The rocking chair was effective.


Check;

I thought you were a lawyer, not a psychologist. My observation both at DAL and in the reserves was that the rank and responsibility an officer left active duty with is/was where he was frozen...mentally, emotionally, responsibility-wise, reasoning-wise, etc. Its a bit of a broad brush, but usually you could count on it being true.

IOW, I agree with your assesment.

Purple Drank 02-18-2013 12:27 PM

Fiigmo, I smell what you're stepping in. Delta management seems to be making good choices (for now), and Delta seems like a great place to be (for now).

But it also strikes me as dangerously complacent. I don't think we should be satisfied with where we at from a compensation standpoint. When the company's raking in record profits, we should need to maximize our gains, too.

Let's not focus on our competitors' issues. Let's work on adjusting our own expectations upward. We are a huge part of the company's financial success. We need to recognize that and be a little more militant about it.

Check Essential 02-18-2013 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1355298)
My observation both at DAL and in the reserves was that the rank and responsibility an officer left active duty with is/was where he was frozen...mentally, emotionally, responsibility-wise, reasoning-wise, etc.

Unless you ask my wife. She thinks I'm frozen at age 12.

So here's a Kate Upton pic:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/2012_swim...kate-upton.jpg

Bucking Bar 02-18-2013 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1355298)
Check;

I thought you were a lawyer, not a psychologist. My observation both at DAL and in the reserves was that the rank and responsibility an officer left active duty with is/was where he was frozen...mentally, emotionally, responsibility-wise, reasoning-wise, etc. Its a bit of a broad brush, but usually you could count on it being true.

IOW, I agree with your assesment.

Sort of an in-service Peter Principle?


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