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Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 1364056)

I stand somewhat corrected. They have been operating combis with the PAX behind the cargo. Not sure how you would do that with a 747-400. Do you lose the upper deck. Just asking?

In the late 80s/early 90s I worked the ramp in CLT. We contracted with Lufthansa to turn their 747 combis that came in 3 days a week. IIRC the last half of the jet was cargo. So you had the traditional First Class up top.

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Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 1364056)

I stand somewhat corrected. They have been operating combis with the PAX behind the cargo. Not sure how you would do that with a 747-400. Do you lose the upper deck. Just asking?

Obviously not an American carrier but here is KLM 744 Combi from seatguru.com. I've seen these in IAH.

http://cdn.seatguru.com/en_US/img/41...-400_combi.jpg

I don't know if AF has them but just think of the horse meat you could put back there. ( that's what the CAL rampers said they loaded into the AF jets)

That last cargo pallet looks a little caddywhompus. Must be a Douglas design. :D

A South African 747 combi had a nasty cargo fire that led to a crash in the Indian Ocean back in the 1987. Some of the rules were changed to add more fire-fighting equipment which added weight which, in turn made combis less economical.

Interesting story...google SAA 295.

It does seem like I remember some FAR that said the cargo had to be forward of the PAX but I guess those foreign airlines don't have to comply with U.S. rules to fly into the U.S.? :confused:

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Originally Posted by XtremeF150 (Post 1364088)

It does seem like I remember some FAR that said the cargo had to be forward of the PAX but I guess those foreign airlines don't have to comply with U.S. rules to fly into the U.S.? :confused:

When cargo is put between the pilots and the passengers, cargo nets become hammocks.

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Originally Posted by XtremeF150 (Post 1364088)

It does seem like I remember some FAR that said the cargo had to be forward of the PAX but I guess those foreign airlines don't have to comply with U.S. rules to fly into the U.S.? :confused:

Ha ha...

I knew studying for the FE written would pay off at some point. (at least I think I remember -cargo forward of pax- being subject matter on the FE written)

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1363986)

Unde the old contract you were never full at 70. You were full at the ALV every single month. New contract you are now full at the reseve guarantee. The average pilot at Delta has 6 plus known absences a year. If the ALV is 77 your now full at 75 hours verses 77 on the old contract. If you have a week of vacation your now full at 54:15 vice 77 in the old contract. Alv15 and other changes will cost us jobs. Other changes gained jobs the net effect will be less then 150 jobs system wide.

You're right it was ALV.

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And yes ALV-2 but min of 72 and capped at 80 is the reserve guarantee. You can still fly to ALV+15 and in a month with a 84 ALV that means a reserve can fly to 99 hours. Right?

99 hours. That's a lot.

Now as to how many jobs this cut, if we were gaining jobs through the TA why in these investors calls are they saying the higher pilot pay through greater proficiency? Proficiency doesn't seem to be more pilots doing the same amount of flying.

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1364042)

We're saying staff the airline with something other than GSs, like pilots.

GS's are one thing in IROPS or we are hiring, using it every weekend is another. In my category, every Saturday and Sunday this month is below required staffing and it's only the 3rd. A year or so ago you could get those guys from the weekdays to cover it but now they cut reserves by 20% overall (since January and despite a jump in the ALV) so they're really are not any guys to borrow.

Meanwhile, they say the category is overstaffed and they want pilots to leave. I don't doubt they're telling the truth. My question is just how few pilots do they want to run a category like ATL M88 with? Is this a sign of how they will be able to run things going forward?

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Really, the only day that gives you the true staffing level is the very first day that pcs is run. This is the day you will see how many "extra" reserves there are over the required number. After that, pilots will have dropped and swapped down to the "required" number.

Based on the 88b, it looks like most of your weekends were above the "required" number to start the month which also is why you see so many extras during the week... The "required" number could be artificially increased (preventing drops etc) and then the odds of green slips going out would be less, but in the mean time somebody did miss out on a GS and several people may have been denied x day moves, drops etc...

More pilots in your category does not by default fix what you desire because even if you had 20 more pilots on the weekends to start, odds are pilots are going to pcs away, or move x days to weekends till the "required" number is reached.

I am curious what you are specifically saying you would like to see wrt weekend coverage? The only thing that I can see that would more or less fix it for you is artificlly raising the "required" number.