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nwaf16dude 03-18-2013 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1374064)
Stay of execution on the -9 anyone?

Flexibility is the key to airpower. Indecision is the key to flexibility. ;)

That would make me chuckle...how many stays has the 9 had already. It's like a death row inmate getting fat from too many last meals!

Elliot 03-18-2013 06:02 AM

Question for anyone in the know......Sailing?

As of March 1st, aren't we already one year away from Contract 2015 opening statements? (e.g. D-ALPA/DAL can exchange opening statements 270 days prior to the amendable date [March 1st, 2014] and the amendable date is Jan. 1st, 2015.)

Has anything been done, or is anything being done to gauge the climate of our pilot group. (i.e. upcoming survey?) Is the company as interested in their "constructive engagement" approach as last time? Can we expect a TA to be passed, and contract signed by next summer, or did the company gain so generously from the fruits of their negotiations last time, that their is no longer any incentive in having a contract in place prior to the amendable date of our current PWA?

Thanks for the informative reply.

GJ

Timbo 03-18-2013 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1374085)
That would make me chuckle...how many stays has the 9 had already. It's like a death row inmate getting fat from too many last meals!


The DC9 reminds me of the old Monty Python, Bring out your Dead:

Monty Python: Not Dead Yet - YouTube

"I'm not dead yet!" :D

forgot to bid 03-18-2013 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1374079)


I've got a better idea, how about we pay 1.5X for every hour flown UNDER the ALV, and NOTHING paid for hours flown above it?

Just like our old pay rates, and a 75hr. cap with the extra going into a bow wave.:rolleyes:

That would be the best idea, 100% no doubt.

sailingfun 03-18-2013 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by Gearjerk (Post 1374088)
Question for anyone in the know......Sailing?

As of March 1st, aren't we already one year away from Contract 2015 opening statements? (e.g. D-ALPA/DAL can exchange opening statements 270 days prior to the amendable date [March 1st, 2014] and the amendable date is Jan. 1st, 2015.)

Has anything been done, or is anything being done to gauge the climate of our pilot group. (i.e. upcoming survey?) Is the company as interested in their "constructive engagement" approach as last time? Can we expect a TA to be passed, and contract signed by next summer, or did the company gain so generously from the fruits of their negotiations last time, that their is no longer any incentive in having a contract in place prior to the amendable date of our current PWA?

Thanks for the informative reply.

GJ

I would expect contract surveys to go out in the fall of 14. Openers in the spring of 15. Tell me the state of the economy at that point and what the SWA contract ends up being if done by then and I will give you a guess on how long ours will take.
This is also a 3 year contract not a 2 year as you posted. The amenable date is 31 Dec 15.

forgot to bid 03-18-2013 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1374072)
And watch the jobs go away.

I proposed both.

But three years ago I talked to the ATL88A who was on the merger committee about the GS vs 1.5x pay and he said the cost to the company was a wash. He did not say GS improved staffing. I actually posted on this thread what he said but Lord help me finding it.

Justdoinmyjob 03-18-2013 06:12 AM

Delta Air Lines - The launch customer for the DC-9-10 in 1965, the last US airline operating DC-9-50s in 2013.

http://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-co...tXwbs4jNGA.jpg

forgot to bid 03-18-2013 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1374072)
And watch the jobs go away.


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1374098)
I proposed both.

But three years ago I talked to the ATL88A who was on the merger committee about the GS vs 1.5x pay and he said the cost to the company was a wash. He did not say GS improved staffing. I actually posted on this thread what he said but Lord help me finding it.


Actually found it from March 2010...


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 774922)
From talking to the merger committee folks the end money given to the pilot group between the time and a half pay NWA used to get and the greenslip system was a wash proportionally. However, the greenslip system was spread out whereas the 1.5X system was heavily in favor of senior pilots.


XtremeF150 03-18-2013 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1374099)
Delta Air Lines - The launch customer for the DC-9-10 in 1965, the last US airline operating DC-9-50s in 2013.

http://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-co...tXwbs4jNGA.jpg

They must really be about heritage...or keeping it in the family

Timbo 03-18-2013 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1374099)
Delta Air Lines - The launch customer for the DC-9-10 in 1965, the last US airline operating DC-9-50s in 2013.

http://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-co...tXwbs4jNGA.jpg


I actually got to fly the DC9-10 for a freight outfit (Purolator Courier) prior to being hired at Delta, I wonder if some of the ones I flew had been owned by DL. It was great fun when it was empty, as it usually was on the BDL-BOS legs. It had no slats, just the potato chip you see on the wing. Purolator had added the cargo door on the left side, and called it a DC9-15F.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Purol...dc0df7e48c4791


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