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daldude 03-17-2013 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by tim123 (Post 1373584)
The crew resource FAQ on Mar 12 or 13 did say the 717 will now enter rev service in Oct.


Asked Chief pilot asked why delay on 717 entry into service. Did not mention sim moving. But did say that now they could delay converting as many pilots to 717 over summer.

Pretty logical on company's part, now they can continue to delay hiring. I'm not saying the sky is falling and I'm sure someone can put some positive spin on why they are not going to start 717 service. But before you bid for the summer off I think it is pretty clear that it not going to happen. I can see the next CR letter saying Nov then Dec then by next summer for 717 service.

Also, in the last letter from ops I was led to believe that we are still over staffed in the 330 and will be further overstaffed when they start the lie flat conversions and start removing the 330's from service. There is your next source of funding for the 717. Hmmm

nwaf16dude 03-17-2013 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Brocc15 (Post 1373616)
Did they say what the plan is to get people their 100 hours in 120 days? Or will they just sent people back to the sim for special requal? And if they are going to have to do that what is the point of training pilots early, like the Atlanta M88 guys who only go through 3 days of training anyway? Or does M88 time count toward the 717? I wonder if DC9 time would count toward it as well?

There was also a blurb in one of those docs about possibly acquiring a 717 to be used for flight training over the summer. Haven't heard anything further about that, but it's something that may interrupt your whole summer off.

nwaf16dude 03-17-2013 08:04 AM

Question for anyone who knows... I noticed that regular lines on NYC765 are going to very junior pilots for the last few months. I'm guessing that this is a winter anomaly, and that those junior line-holders are reserve guys most of the year. I can't see any of the bid awards prior to January. Does anyone have any experience in that seat? I know, I should stay away, NYC sucks, right?

forgot to bid 03-17-2013 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Brocc15 (Post 1373616)
Did they say what the plan is to get people their 100 hours in 120 days? Or will they just sent people back to the sim for special requal? And if they are going to have to do that what is the point of training pilots early, like the Atlanta M88 guys who only go through 3 days of training anyway? Or does M88 time count toward the 717? I wonder if DC9 time would count toward it as well?

Its a 5 day course with mostly lofts plus oral, spot and loe. The differences does not even require systems Distance Learning.

As to the consolidation they didn't have a problem with 9 guys going past it. You get another OE and 150 days later you get to go to the sim. But I didn't look that up, its what a 9 buddy told me.

Check Essential 03-17-2013 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1373644)
Question for anyone who knows... I noticed that regular lines on NYC765 are going to very junior pilots for the last few months. I'm guessing that this is a winter anomaly, and that those junior line-holders are reserve guys most of the year. I can't see any of the bid awards prior to January. Does anyone have any experience in that seat? I know, I should stay away, NYC sucks, right?

Its not just NYC765.

It's weekends off, strategic X day spacing and X day moves and the 80 point Bucket 1 RAW value.

Senior guys are catching on and learning the game.

buzzpat 03-17-2013 09:17 AM

Hey guys,

PCS question. When the PCS runs are done on the 20th of the month, what is the sequence? Drops first, swap with the pot second and slips third? I'm on the road and don't have access to the PWA. Thanks in advance for any info!

Buzz

Check Essential 03-17-2013 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1373671)
Hey guys,

PCS question. When the PCS runs are done on the 20th of the month, what is the sequence? Drops first, swap with the pot second and slips third? I'm on the road and don't have access to the PWA. Thanks in advance for any info!

Buzz

White slips go before swaps.

2. Requests for the following schedule alterations will be processed in the following order:
29 a. MLOA (see
Section 13 D.),
30 b. APD (see
Section 23 I.),
31 c. PD and X-day moves (see
Section 23 I. and Section 12 N. 9.),
32 d. recovery slips (see
Section 23 J.),
33 e. white slip (see
Section 23 P.), and
34 f. swap with the pot (see Section 23 H.)

sailingfun 03-17-2013 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1373671)
Hey guys,

PCS question. When the PCS runs are done on the 20th of the month, what is the sequence? Drops first, swap with the pot second and slips third? I'm on the road and don't have access to the PWA. Thanks in advance for any info!

Buzz

Drops, whiteslips then swaps.

buzzpat 03-17-2013 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1373675)
Drops, whiteslips then swaps.

Sailing And Check....thanks brothers! Just what I needed.

forgot to bid 03-17-2013 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by daldude (Post 1373626)
Asked Chief pilot asked why delay on 717 entry into service. Did not mention sim moving. But did say that now they could delay converting as many pilots to 717 over summer.

Pretty logical on company's part, now they can continue to delay hiring. I'm not saying the sky is falling and I'm sure someone can put some positive spin on why they are not going to start 717 service. But before you bid for the summer off I think it is pretty clear that it not going to happen. I can see the next CR letter saying Nov then Dec then by next summer for 717 service.

Also, in the last letter from ops I was led to believe that we are still over staffed in the 330 and will be further overstaffed when they start the lie flat conversions and start removing the 330's from service. There is your next source of funding for the 717. Hmmm

I think the surprising part of the crew resources newsletter promoting the summer off if you bid the 717 is that it contradicts the long proven philosophy of bid what you want and want what you bid.

So it was hinted that you'd get a summer off and thus guys bid the 717 in the hopes of a summer off, only one problem, doesn't look like that's happening at all. Nice. oh well for them, just be glad it's a 2 year seat lock and we haven't gone to 5 yet.


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