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newKnow 03-16-2013 05:09 PM

As of now:

Pref Senior to SSN 61XX

95 with 54 as first choice.

bluejuice71 03-16-2013 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1373439)
As of now:

Pref Senior to SSN 61XX

95 with 54 as first choice.

Good. Let them have it. The more senior the better. Opens up seats on better equipment for us junior folk.

forgot to bid 03-16-2013 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1373396)
Are they? Why would the company convert them in the busy months? I would think they could be awarded the seat... but not trained and converted until early/late fall...

Yeah, I think "the whole summer off if you bid the 717!!!" is a sales job. Especially the 88 crowd that can be trained quickly.

Hope I'm wrong.

dalad 03-16-2013 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1373396)
Are they? Why would the company convert them in the busy months? I would think they could be awarded the seat... but not trained and converted until early/late fall...

When is the first airplane scheduled to show up? If they are training crews starting in a month or two, some will get the summer off. Granted it is a 365 day bid, so you may not go to training for a year after the award.

johnso29 03-16-2013 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1373447)
Yeah, I think "the whole summer off if you bid the 717!!!" is a sales job. Especially the 88 crowd that can be trained quickly.

Hope I'm wrong.

I agree with you. The company is desperately trying to bribe people to bid B717. I'm hoping over 75% of the B717A and B717B positions are filled via MD.

scambo1 03-16-2013 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1373447)
Yeah, I think "the whole summer off if you bid the 717!!!" is a sales job. Especially the 88 crowd that can be trained quickly.

Hope I'm wrong.

Some guys will get the summer off, but it won't be as widespread as is being hoped for. Still, I'm glad there are pilots who want to bid and fly the up, down, up, down domestic equipment, especially the more senior guys. Why? Because it invalidates the arguement regularly posed by DALPA that "you don't really want to fly that."

Did a little research with the assistance of my trusty dispatcher. The proposed JFK-HKG will be a 777 flight. The 744 doesn't have the lung capacity. The only question is will it be ATL getting the positive space commutes or DTW? Of course this is only mentioned out of my own personal best interest.:D

I only recently really looked at/analysed the AE. Of course, the results will be the most telling, but IF this AE is the end of the bad news, we are gonna need some bodies. Boomer better get that resume' polished up.

johnso29 03-16-2013 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1373458)
When is the first airplane scheduled to show up? If they are training crews starting in a month or two, some will get the summer off. Granted it is a 365 day bid, so you may not go to training for a year after the award.

I think it was originally supposed to come in August and enter service in September. The real issue is IOE.

forgot to bid 03-16-2013 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1373460)
Some guys will get the summer off, but it won't be as widespread as is being hoped for. Still, I'm glad there are pilots who want to bid and fly the up, down, up, down domestic equipment, especially the more senior guys. Why? Because it invalidates the arguement regularly posed by DALPA that "you don't really want to fly that."

Did a little research with the assistance of my trusty dispatcher. The proposed JFK-HKG will be a 777 flight. The 744 doesn't have the lung capacity. The only question is will it be ATL getting the positive space commutes or DTW? Of course this is only mentioned out of my own personal best interest.:D

I only recently really looked at/analysed the AE. Of course, the results will be the most telling, but IF this AE is the end of the bad news, we are gonna need some bodies. Boomer better get that resume' polished up.

Good post.

forgot to bid 03-16-2013 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1373447)
Yeah, I think "the whole summer off if you bid the 717!!!" is a sales job. Especially the 88 crowd that can be trained quickly.

Hope I'm wrong.

Let me clarify, I think there will be people who convert in April. I really believe they will do it. But everyone who reads that CR newsletter the thought is they'll get the summer off, they assume they'll be senior. I hope I'm wrong but I just dont think itll be that many. you know they don't need 290 pilots for 3 planes in September, but they'll need every 88 pilot beyond the few token early converts for the summer.

Like I said, I hope I'm wrong. If right, I'm going to stop paying attention to these CR newsletters and various emails. I'd rather be a uninformed pilot than a misinformed one.

sailingfun 03-16-2013 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1373466)
Let me clarify, I think there will be people who convert in April. I really believe they will do it. But everyone who reads that CR newsletter the thought is they'll get the summer off, they assume they'll be senior. I hope I'm wrong but I just dont think itll be that many. you know they don't need 290 pilots for 3 planes in September, but they'll need every 88 pilot beyond the few token early converts for the summer.

Like I said, I hope I'm wrong. If right, I'm going to stop paying attention to these CR newsletters and various emails. I'd rather be a uninformed pilot than a misinformed one.


There will be a lot of time off for the next several years on the 717. The volume of training will see a lot of training drops.


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