Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-22-2013 | 07:01 PM
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03-22-2013 | 07:12 PM
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03-22-2013 | 07:21 PM
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The last captain that I flew with recommended this book:
Hard Landing: The Epic Contest for Power and Profits That Plunged the Airlines into Chaos: Thomas Petzinger Jr.: 9780812928358: Amazon.com: Books
It's the story of the personalities and challenges of the airline industry up to 1996. I just started it and it's a great read. Highly recommended.
It makes me glad that I work for a company that knows how to make a profit in this business.
Hard Landing: The Epic Contest for Power and Profits That Plunged the Airlines into Chaos: Thomas Petzinger Jr.: 9780812928358: Amazon.com: Books
It's the story of the personalities and challenges of the airline industry up to 1996. I just started it and it's a great read. Highly recommended.
It makes me glad that I work for a company that knows how to make a profit in this business.
03-22-2013 | 07:47 PM
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The last captain that I flew with recommended this book:
Hard Landing: The Epic Contest for Power and Profits That Plunged the Airlines into Chaos: Thomas Petzinger Jr.: 9780812928358: Amazon.com: Books
It's the story of the personalities and challenges of the airline industry up to 1996. I just started it and it's a great read. Highly recommended.
It makes me glad that I work for a company that knows how to make a profit in this business.
Hard Landing: The Epic Contest for Power and Profits That Plunged the Airlines into Chaos: Thomas Petzinger Jr.: 9780812928358: Amazon.com: Books
It's the story of the personalities and challenges of the airline industry up to 1996. I just started it and it's a great read. Highly recommended.
It makes me glad that I work for a company that knows how to make a profit in this business.
03-22-2013 | 07:54 PM
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The last captain that I flew with recommended this book:
Hard Landing: The Epic Contest for Power and Profits That Plunged the Airlines into Chaos: Thomas Petzinger Jr.: 9780812928358: Amazon.com: Books
It's the story of the personalities and challenges of the airline industry up to 1996. I just started it and it's a great read. Highly recommended.
It makes me glad that I work for a company that knows how to make a profit in this business.
Hard Landing: The Epic Contest for Power and Profits That Plunged the Airlines into Chaos: Thomas Petzinger Jr.: 9780812928358: Amazon.com: Books
It's the story of the personalities and challenges of the airline industry up to 1996. I just started it and it's a great read. Highly recommended.
It makes me glad that I work for a company that knows how to make a profit in this business.
03-22-2013 | 08:14 PM
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And you are basing that on what information pray tell?
ATL growing...MSP getting smaller?
ATL apparently has a very lucrative O&D numbers whereas (if you are talking about FLIGHTS and not based employees, I would wager) MSP does not. Believe it or not, it IS about making money, and the current group of execs are intent on doing that very thing, more so than any of the morons that have graced us with their presence in the time I have been here. And I for one do not want us to fly to places where we do not make money. They have been creative, and diligent in attaining their goals. Now, because MSP is apparently in YOUR paradigm of the top 1 places on the planet we should be flying, I am sure they are wrong in their analysis. I don't want MSP to go anywhere either though because all of those guys are senior, and that means more displacements downstream...
My paradigm is purely selfish...the only one leg commute there is for me. That said..my thoughts are not purely about MSP. I am wondering when ATL will reach critical mass if it has not already exceeded that. How much longer can they keep stuffing more stuff in there. I think a good deal of the cutbacks in MSP have as much to do having to deal with the state of Minnesota. The only reason MSP was the hub it was IMO was because NWA headquarters was there. After the merger, it is being relegated to the second tier hub it probably always would have/should have been. There was also a somewhat acrimonious relationship between NWA and the state and a fairly hostile media as well. I'm sure RA is long tired of dealing with that.
Oh, and FWIW, I have heard Mr Anderson say on more than one occasion that he likes DTW because of it's position on the great circle routes to both Asia and Europe.. so it is probably safe.
I would agree with that and DTW gates, etc are laid out better than MSP...but it's still...well... Detroit.
Now Timbo and I are still waiting for that E190 base in MCO... the number 1 tourist destination on planet earth... Of course Virgin insists on flying 2 to 4 747-400s there a few times each week.. and we all know how well they are doing financially, don't we?
Who gets to be the chief pilot?
/rant
And you are basing that on what information pray tell?
ATL growing...MSP getting smaller?
ATL apparently has a very lucrative O&D numbers whereas (if you are talking about FLIGHTS and not based employees, I would wager) MSP does not. Believe it or not, it IS about making money, and the current group of execs are intent on doing that very thing, more so than any of the morons that have graced us with their presence in the time I have been here. And I for one do not want us to fly to places where we do not make money. They have been creative, and diligent in attaining their goals. Now, because MSP is apparently in YOUR paradigm of the top 1 places on the planet we should be flying, I am sure they are wrong in their analysis. I don't want MSP to go anywhere either though because all of those guys are senior, and that means more displacements downstream...
My paradigm is purely selfish...the only one leg commute there is for me. That said..my thoughts are not purely about MSP. I am wondering when ATL will reach critical mass if it has not already exceeded that. How much longer can they keep stuffing more stuff in there. I think a good deal of the cutbacks in MSP have as much to do having to deal with the state of Minnesota. The only reason MSP was the hub it was IMO was because NWA headquarters was there. After the merger, it is being relegated to the second tier hub it probably always would have/should have been. There was also a somewhat acrimonious relationship between NWA and the state and a fairly hostile media as well. I'm sure RA is long tired of dealing with that.
Oh, and FWIW, I have heard Mr Anderson say on more than one occasion that he likes DTW because of it's position on the great circle routes to both Asia and Europe.. so it is probably safe.
I would agree with that and DTW gates, etc are laid out better than MSP...but it's still...well... Detroit.
Now Timbo and I are still waiting for that E190 base in MCO... the number 1 tourist destination on planet earth... Of course Virgin insists on flying 2 to 4 747-400s there a few times each week.. and we all know how well they are doing financially, don't we?
Who gets to be the chief pilot?
/rant
03-22-2013 | 08:39 PM
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The last captain that I flew with recommended this book:
Hard Landing: The Epic Contest for Power and Profits That Plunged the Airlines into Chaos: Thomas Petzinger Jr.: 9780812928358: Amazon.com: Books
It's the story of the personalities and challenges of the airline industry up to 1996. I just started it and it's a great read. Highly recommended.
It makes me glad that I work for a company that knows how to make a profit in this business.
Hard Landing: The Epic Contest for Power and Profits That Plunged the Airlines into Chaos: Thomas Petzinger Jr.: 9780812928358: Amazon.com: Books
It's the story of the personalities and challenges of the airline industry up to 1996. I just started it and it's a great read. Highly recommended.
It makes me glad that I work for a company that knows how to make a profit in this business.
03-22-2013 | 09:26 PM
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You can look it up in the Bureau of Transportation Statistics page under Origin or Destination and Analysis to the right side:
RITA | BTS | Transtats
Both the O & D numbers are the same, so I'll just put one number by each hub. These are 2012 numbers.
1. ATL 37,903,309 (a big O&D hub indeed)
2. LAX 21,587,577
3. MSP 13,780,655
4. SEA 13,483,773
5. DTW 13,019,248
6. JFK 11,137,787
7. LGA 11,055,451
8. SLC 8,758,590
9. MEM 3,130,415
10. CVG 2,631,616
and DFW (since I commute from there) 23,324,375
Others of interest -
ORD 25,207,513
and MCO (for T) 14,216,656
So there is still a strong O&D market to tap in MSP.
RITA | BTS | Transtats
Both the O & D numbers are the same, so I'll just put one number by each hub. These are 2012 numbers.
1. ATL 37,903,309 (a big O&D hub indeed)
2. LAX 21,587,577
3. MSP 13,780,655
4. SEA 13,483,773
5. DTW 13,019,248
6. JFK 11,137,787
7. LGA 11,055,451
8. SLC 8,758,590
9. MEM 3,130,415
10. CVG 2,631,616
and DFW (since I commute from there) 23,324,375
Others of interest -
ORD 25,207,513
and MCO (for T) 14,216,656
So there is still a strong O&D market to tap in MSP.
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03-22-2013 | 10:46 PM
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03-23-2013 | 01:15 AM
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