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Old 04-18-2013 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Could be, I just don't know. As a 14 year FO, I've never had the pleasure of flying with a new hire.

Fighter guys should show up with a clear understanding that rotation rates are variable depending on takeoff conditions. A clean F16 at sea level on a cold day vs a war load at bagram in July. Very different airplanes, very different takeoffs.
Guess you'll have to wait until you hold a Captain's seat and start flying with newhires! Great point about the F-16 load variations and airfield elevations.

The only B-1 that I've witnessed with tail damage was one that was refueled improperly causing it to fall back on its tail. Oh, and the one gear up landing we had overseas.
Old 04-18-2013 | 07:27 AM
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I saw a lot of F-16s with tail damage from landing. Very easy to hit the speedbrakes if you got too slow. I also saw guys hit the strakes, nozzle, and the horizontal stab...took some serious ham-fisting to make that happen.
Old 04-18-2013 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Can we talk about the Noise Abatement climb out of John Wayne now?

That was always my favorite, in a light 757 full pwr, it was quite fun.

25 degrees nose up coming at you! But don't forget to make the PA first.
Yup, flaps 20 and run the power up and then release brakes.
Old 04-18-2013 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Could be, I just don't know. As a 14 year FO, I've never had the pleasure of flying with a new hire.

Fighter guys should show up with a clear understanding that rotation rates are variable depending on takeoff conditions. A clean F16 at sea level on a cold day vs a war load at bagram in July. Very different airplanes, very different takeoffs.
I remember taking off in an F-4 with 3 full external tanks, 6 MK-82's and an ECM pod. It was a 100 degree day and could barely feel the burners kick in. Also remember taking off MSY-LAX, flaps 25 and a loooong take off rol on RWY 01. 10/28 was closed.
Old 04-18-2013 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Can we talk about the Noise Abatement climb out of John Wayne now?

That was always my favorite, in a light 757 full pwr, it was quite fun.

25 degrees nose up coming at you! But don't forget to make the PA first.

Thanks Timbo,

You had to remind me that I was previously able to hold all SNA lines on the LAX 737 (sparing Buzz the long drive south) until they totally disappeared from our Bid package. Still hoping for some SNA this summer.

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Old 04-18-2013 | 07:37 AM
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I flew an empty A319 from EWR to PHL as a reposition for a charter with only 7,000 lbs of gas. And we had an MEL requiring a full thrust takeoff. Oh my - it was like riding a mechanical bull.
Old 04-18-2013 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
Guess you'll have to wait until you hold a Captain's seat and start flying with newhires! Great point about the F-16 load variations and airfield elevations.

The only B-1 that I've witnessed with tail damage was one that was refueled improperly causing it to fall back on its tail. Oh, and the one gear up landing we had overseas.
Was that overseas one at Diego Garcia? I remember one sitting on the ramp for quite a while back in 2002 (just a few months after the guys punched out of one just north of the island). Gucci boyz did a fine job on that S&R.
Old 04-18-2013 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SJUflyer
To all u talking about rotation rate and pitch rate...when is an airplane ready to fly while rolling down the runway....simple aerodynamics....and if u know you will use the proper term !!!!
It's ready to fly when I goddam well tell it it's ready to fly.

And I do believe goddam is the proper term.
Old 04-18-2013 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankCobretti
It's ready to fly when I goddam well tell it it's ready to fly.

And I do believe goddam is the proper term.
I've never flown the 88. But I've heard that the 88 don't care.
Old 04-18-2013 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Schwanker
Was that overseas one at Diego Garcia? I remember one sitting on the ramp for quite a while back in 2002 (just a few months after the guys punched out of one just north of the island). Gucci boyz did a fine job on that S&R.
Yes - it actually flew out one year later.
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