Absolutely - all that excess capacity is unsustainable. At some point their oil will run out, and with it, their subsidies.

Thank you!!! I know I am not a part of the DAL click on this website but I have been jumping up and down trying to get thoughts on this issue. I know we seem to love our crazy crummy hats and double breasted jackets but as a group we haven't been honest with ourselves. Have we given up too much top end scope? I don't expect anybody in the top 33% of our seniority list to respond to that question. They are on their last contract. For the bottom 66%....we need to ask this question. We need to address it when our next contract comes up. Take a look at near peer fleets. UAL has a very impressive wb fleet. UAL has a positive growth plan for their nb and wb fleet. DAL has a bunch of used 717s and a oil refinery. The company is making money. I believe their plan moving forward must be to expand our international footprint through JV. We simply do not have a wb fleet capable of competing.

It should be ok to yellow slip a 2 day even if you're a 4 day guy and they have 2 day guys. White slip, then yellow, then the reserve that comes up for the trip. The way it is now they give it to a 2 day guy that didn't have a yellow slip in and pass on a guy that has a yellow in (4 day or 3 day guy).
If you want a trip you should get the trip in seniority order. They just pass you on you. Needs fixed.

Flow through Numbers
 

Shyguy,

Your numbers are correct but the methodology will be a little different. Of course management can change the methodology anytime, as long as they comply with the numbers.

Here is the way it was explained to me at a Base Ops visit by the DAL crew resources represetnative (My words from an earlier post):


When hiring starts it will be mostly flows: I think he said the first 20/month from Compass and then 9 month from Mesaba. Above 29/month hiring will be off the street, including the Pinnnacle dudes with preferential interviews. After the first few months of each year when Compass and Mesaba hit their annual limit (I think 25%) all the new hires will be off the street.


Scoop

If needed for SC times.
I have been told that is just a request and they do not have to honor it in Seniority order.
You want 1600-1730. You get 0630. Guy Junior to you gets 1700. You call to see what happened. "It's just a request. Would you like a 2 hour commute?"
This needs fixed.

Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents on the reserve buckets. Obviously ALPA catered to the senior guys in this regard. I've talked to the guys in crew resources and asked why they bucket ranges never change and they said to complain to ALPA about it. The company could care less whether a junior guy or a senior guy does the trip-it's all ALPA. I don't have a problem with it if it was more legit, like maybe 30 raw per bucket. We need to have more buckets with much lower ranges. It's ridiculous.

C1 did like a week and half ago.

Nope, you're also wrong.

Edit: just refer to bohicagain's post.

Almost right

1/4 of the pilot group in 1 rolling year is correct (can be waived by Delta)
However the first 20 spots per month are reserved for compass pilots.
So if Delta has 2 new hire classes in a month the first 20 spots go to compass pilots

So
1st month 20 CPZ
2nd month 20 CPZ
3rd month 20cpz
4th month 20 cpz
5th month 20 cpz
6th month 10 cpz
7th month 0 cpz
8th month 0 cpz
9th month 0 cpz
10th month 0cpz
11 month 0cpz
12 month 0cpz


edit: guess scoop beat me 2 it