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80ktsClamp 04-25-2013 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1397977)
This is all true to a point, but its important not to overstate its reach. 450 is 450 is 450. Done. Capped out. All the company can do is try and bribe us with our own money to give up more. While we might fall for it, I don't see it happening. And it is by no means an automatic manifest destiny. 450 is 450. 76 is 76. Unless they go bat poo crazy with 37 seat turboprops, it appears we just may have finally put a fence around this beast. At least at the DCI level. Standing by for the VA "partnership" to see how that plays out.

And 255 was 255 and 173 was 173, amirite?

80ktsClamp 04-25-2013 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1397958)
When CDs came out, I resisted. Finally, I sold my whole (huge) music collection for, I think, about $200. Now with MP3s, I have a gigantic project in front of me to upload all my music to itunes (I wish there was a better way). My iphone 3 is full, so I guess the cloud keeps me mainlining apple.

If anyone knows of a better way, I'm all ears. I'd really like to upload the music to a format that I can keep ownership of and simply be able to migrate files to itunes.

I haven't figured it out yet, either. I've got somewhere around 400 CDs. My 64 gb iPad can't come close to holding that plus all the other music I've downloaded over the years.

gloopy 04-25-2013 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1397985)
And 255 was 255 and 173 was 173, amirite?

Yep.


Wait.

http://www.memecenter.com/fun/135048...cts-to-herself

What?

Bucking Bar 04-25-2013 07:47 AM

Good posts folks and thanks for the reasoned replies.

IMHO the black helicopter stuff are the various theories that Lee Moak is purposely engaged in the creation of an alter ego which will be merged (to the satisfaction of unity hawks like me) at the cost of something near Pinnacle book on our new Delta small jet fleet. Something like that would be the perfect 100 seat answer and I would send money for a Brass Statute in his honor. But I think my money is safe .... I think as far as this goes is cheaper, better, outsourcing in more capable airplanes.

avi8tor220 04-25-2013 07:56 AM

It's always nice to come to this thread to get good info from the guys that have been through this. Why the sell off in 2010, only to wholly own another regional now? I understand this whole bankruptcy of Pinnacle was a cost reset. But couldn't the reset occur without becoming wholly owned again by Delta? It's pocket change in Delta's eye to invest in Pinnacle. But why Pinnacle? Why now? Maybe I'm reading too much into this like others have said.

forgot to bid 04-25-2013 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1397922)
Anybody else hate 80kts as much as I do right now.....?

If hating on 80 is right, I don't want to be wrong.

forgot to bid 04-25-2013 08:00 AM

Wait, I think I butchered that quote.

This is why I talking pictures.

Bucking Bar 04-25-2013 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1397950)
Pandora's box of regional operators has been opened. So how are we to contain the size of regionals?

The hardest part will be turning around ALPA. We need ALPA to get the job done. We have some truly excellent minds in our association, many of whom are afraid to stand up for fear of being marginalized. I give these people credit for being tremendously astute at getting things done for pilots. Generally, we negotiate to:
  • Stop agreeing to further outsourcing
  • Sunset outsourcing agreements
  • Fight for a requirement that ALPA members perform any outsourced flying
  • Fight for mergers ... Delta numbers for Delta flying
  • Be pragmatic, reasonable, but never forget our goals
and despite my rants, I think contract 2012 was a small step in the right direction ... but I'll be complaining about outsourcing as long as I am part of a labor group.

... and that's my strike issue.

Imapilot2 04-25-2013 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1397985)
And 255 was 255 and 173 was 173, amirite?

No not right, you changed the context of his meaning. His numbers were presented by the company and voted on by the Delta pilots. After a passage by the Delta pilots the numbers change. Your context leads one to believe the numbers were soft and can be changed under a blanket of secrecy or just desire.

Avgwhitemale 04-25-2013 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1398005)
The hardest part will be turning around ALPA. We need ALPA to get the job done. We have some truly excellent minds in our association, many of whom are afraid to stand up for fear of being marginalized. I give these people credit for being tremendously astute at getting things done for pilots. Generally, we negotiate to:
  • Stop agreeing to further outsourcing
  • Sunset outsourcing agreements
  • Fight for a requirement that ALPA members perform any outsourced flying
  • Fight for mergers ... Delta numbers for Delta flying
  • Be pragmatic, reasonable, but never forget our goals
and despite my rants, I think contract 2012 was a small step in the right direction ... but I'll be complaining about outsourcing as long as I am part of a labor group.

... and that's my strike issue.

I agree our bottom end scope may be a small step in the right direction. I am curious what your thought are on our top end scope.


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