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Free Bird 05-01-2013 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1401282)
Dublin donuts is closed in terminal A in ATL... no more Starbucks or Dunkin in A or B now.

Carry on.

The Java Gods are angry!

Howgozit 05-01-2013 04:49 AM

Best weather app is flightplan mobile. Free in google app store. It has a radar feature in route weather where it actually draws a line between departure and arrival airports.

Mem9guy 05-01-2013 06:03 AM

If you have flown a rotation that paid via the 4:30 min calender day, check your time card. For some reason, when they close out they are short 1 minute per day. The company knows about it but they don't seem to be correcting it automatically.

Timbo 05-01-2013 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Howgozit (Post 1401321)
Best weather app is flightplan mobile. Free in google app store. It has a radar feature in route weather where it actually draws a line between departure and arrival airports.

Roadie and Howgozit, thanks for the app info. BB, not sure which version I've got, the phone is an HTC EVO, about two years old.

A dinosaur, I know.

But I'm a caveman, so it all works out!

gloopy 05-01-2013 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1400733)
It was horrible. Understand members of the crew had wives and kids. Let us hope they will be cared for ... is the operator ALPA?

As is sometimes the case, the losses amount to workman's compensation claims which are completely inadequate for the need. I do appreciate our life insurance and ALPA's inclusion in our contract.

I also hope that the accident receives a complete investigation. I know it will be looked into, but I'd hate to see anything relevant to future safety be overlooked because of the location and, let's be honest, the lack of public interest/urgency of a small cargo operator.

Does something like this get a full FAA/NTSB/ALPA-Safety/Manufacturer investigation?

Timbo 05-01-2013 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1401379)
I also hope that the accident receives a complete investigation. I know it will be looked into, but I'd hate to see anything relevant to future safety be overlooked because of the location and, let's be honest, the lack of public interest/urgency of a small cargo operator.

Does something like this get a full FAA/NTSB/ALPA-Safety/Manufacturer investigation?

I want to know who loaded it and who checked the locks and tiedowns.

gloopy 05-01-2013 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1401384)
I want to know who loaded it and who checked the locks and tiedowns.

Me too. And also what is being done to prevent something like that in the future. There is zero excuse for something like this. If straps can break, mandate stronger/more straps and regardless we obviously need a better system of verifying it was done right.

Boomer 05-01-2013 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1401379)
Does something like this get a full FAA/NTSB/ALPA-Safety/Manufacturer investigation?

Yes, even in foreign countries. NTSB will not be running the investigation however.

Edit... not sure who has Operational Control when a US civilian carrier is involved in an incident on a US Military airfield on foreign soil.

Bucking Bar 05-01-2013 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1401379)
Does something like this get a full FAA/NTSB/ALPA-Safety/Manufacturer investigation?

Yes .

A US Military base is typically US jurisdiction. Unless there is a political ax to grind, foreign governments are pretty happy to sit back and let others perform the work and undertake the expense of accident investigation for them.

That's not to say foreign governments wont try to make some money off someone else's misfortune. We had a biz jet stuck in Mexico last month that a few of our pilots might have seen sitting off the taxiway partially covered by a tent. The Mexicans refused to allow any of the US manufacturer's employees / safety / engineering / mechanics to help without obtaining various work permits and authorizations. Then there can be environmental impact claims (which gets amusing when the locals cart off all the wreckage before your salvage team can get on site) the fuel, particularly avgas, mostly burns or evaporates.

Bucking Bar 05-01-2013 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1401282)
Dublin donuts is closed in terminal A in ATL... no more Starbucks or Dunkin in A or B now.

Carry on.

Has anyone evaluated the impact on aviation safety?


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