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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
(Post 1407104)
I'm confused. We aren't hiring because... |
Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
(Post 1407079)
Ladies and Gentleman and DL Pilots,
Number 5 on the scorecard, number 1 in your hearts! (and very senior, I might add) GF Hey, I've got a million excuses for that 5th place! It was light air, we were heavy, we had a flat tire, there was traffic, the bridge was up, my dog ate my jib...:D We were second place at the party though! The Puerto Ricans on the Hobie 16 easily took first place there! :eek: Those boys can drink some (good) rum, and lots of it! |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1407053)
Hey T, next January, I'll take you sailing up in Newcastle, NH, with some of my homies in the Frostbite fleet!
Friday May 10th: Frosty Sailing | NH Chronicle - WMUR Home This is what they race for fun up theya' all winter, and it's also why I move to Florida! Cape Cod Frosty Class Association Here's what I do in January in Florida: catamaran sailor magazine Be sure to scroll down to see the picts. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1407011)
OK all you Douglas lovin nuts, close the office door and turn down the lights, you are about to fall in love.
The Air Force just released from it's inventory a DC-9 which operated as Air Force One with an opening bid of $50,000. It looks ferry'able, or at least as flyable as any Douglas product has ever been. The price is cheap, less than a quarter of the expense of one MEC meeting and everyone knows you could get a lot more done in a DC9 than at an MEC meeting. It's former Air Force, so it probably smells like AXE bodyspray & running shoes or something, but look how the aluminum is polished. Don't say your old buddy Bar isn't looking out for you. GSA Auctions, General Services Administration, Government Site for Auctions If you are age 64, buy this, launch VFR, try to open a flight plan enroute as "Air Force One" give every airport and base you can think of a fly by at M 0.75, land it on the beach in Pensacola and donate it to the NAVY for a 12.6 million dollar tax write off (not taxes on your 401K withdrawals!). Voluntarily surrender your Certificate and enjoy your retirement like Sully! ... and it comes with Air Force spares which means probably enough parts to build the space shuttle, or trade them at the recycling center for cash to pay for your fini flight and legal costs. I'm actually thinking about bidding on this thing. Bid $15,000, figure another $10,000 to trailer it, $5,000 for Septic and Water ... Voila - Vacation Home! Scap aluminum is 0.70 a pound. What does this thing weigh, empty, without the AXE Bodyspray? WANT...... |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1407011)
OK all you Douglas lovin nuts, close the office door and turn down the lights, you are about to fall in love.
The Air Force just released from it's inventory a DC-9 which operated as Air Force One with an opening bid of $50,000. It looks ferry'able, or at least as flyable as any Douglas product has ever been. The price is cheap, less than a quarter of the expense of one MEC meeting and everyone knows you could get a lot more done in a DC9 than at an MEC meeting. It's former Air Force, so it probably smells like AXE bodyspray & running shoes or something, but look how the aluminum is polished. Don't say your old buddy Bar isn't looking out for you. GSA Auctions, General Services Administration, Government Site for Auctions If you are age 64, buy this, launch VFR, try to open a flight plan enroute as "Air Force One" give every airport and base you can think of a fly by at M 0.75, land it on the beach in Pensacola and donate it to the NAVY for a 12.6 million dollar tax write off (not taxes on your 401K withdrawals!). Voluntarily surrender your Certificate and enjoy your retirement like Sully! ... and it comes with Air Force spares which means probably enough parts to build the space shuttle, or trade them at the recycling center for cash to pay for your fini flight and legal costs. I'm actually thinking about bidding on this thing. Bid $15,000, figure another $10,000 to trailer it, $5,000 for Septic and Water ... Voila - Vacation Home! Scap aluminum is 0.70 a pound. What does this thing weigh, empty, without the AXE Bodyspray? |
Originally Posted by LivingTheDream
(Post 1406973)
This is why I'm moving to SoCal...
http://dalforums.alpa.org/Portals/3/...t_restroom.jpg Any place that puts a restroom for dogs, in their airport (San Diego) is ok in my book! P.s. Anyone looking for a beautiful lake house in Newnan, Ga? I need to move before my paid move expires next year! :eek: Is yours the house with like a billion Christmas lights every year? Nice place!! I cruise by it on my little sailboat.....sea snark. |
I think I top out at about a half billion lights... Btw, nice boat... good to see something besides pontoon party barges from time to time. :cool:
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1407048)
I can empathize with the killer whales, I've often spent an hour at the Willy's or Qdoba at the Atlanta airport giving chase to food and despite being inches away for an hour, I never got the food inside and I went on to the jet hoping to find snickers or peanuts and a warm coke.
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Originally Posted by Rogue24
(Post 1406991)
The pilots that they were posting against are not posting right now.
The goal of a corporation as I remember from "bidness" school, is to "increase shareholder wealth." It appears that is what Delta is trying to do. (Wonder what they may have planned once the stock increases as many deals tend to involve stock) So, the pie if you will, appears to be about as projected but it is all about what the company, or any company does with it. Look at companies that are sitting on 25 billion is cash.. Why are they not giving it to their employees? Why are companies like UPS who have make much more than Delta, not just sending it to the pilots? Why have the pilots or other employees not been able to demand it by just not doing xy or z? Why do you not pay the kid that cuts your grass more? Certainly most of you could afford to pay him a lot more, but you don't... Why? (Just an analogy as I cut my own grass) Where is the leverage to "force" the company to give us that cash? No emotional banter, give me the plan and real world airline examples in the last 15 years.. I see FedEx, ups, southwest, all profitable but no huge gains. I see Spirit who actually went on strike, but didn't hit a home run. So again thinking of the mission of a corporation, yes there is a point where paying employees does create value for the shareholders and there is a point where it does not. Nobody ever knows for sure exactly where the CEO is willing to go (except for the folks on here) in that balancing act, but there certainly is a point where the CEO is willing to say "no" no matter what the leverage. Don't get me wrong, I want all I can get, but it ain't as easy as some on here make it appear and there certainly is not a "do xyz" and the cash comes rolling in. Now, there may be a different strategy than DALPA's constructive engagement and I am ok with that as well, but you will have show me the examples, tell me how it would work here before I get too excited. |
Originally Posted by RonRicco
(Post 1407336)
Ok.. Trying to look at all this objectively, what has changed in the last 6 months? Profit projections etc are all the same, but the difference is that company is trying to reward shareholders by taking some of that profit and returning it to them.
The goal of a corporation as I remember from "bidness" school, is to "increase shareholder wealth." It appears that is what Delta is trying to do. (Wonder what they may have planned once the stock increases as many deals tend to involve stock) So, the pie if you will, appears to be about as projected but it is all about what the company, or any company does with it. Look at companies that are sitting on 25 billion is cash.. Why are they not giving it to their employees? Why are companies like UPS who have make much more than Delta, not just sending it to the pilots? Why have the pilots or other employees not been able to demand it by just not doing xy or z? Why do you not pay the kid that cuts your grass more? Certainly most of you could afford to pay him a lot more, but you don't... Why? (Just an analogy as I cut my own grass) Where is the leverage to "force" the company to give us that cash? No emotional banter, give me the plan and real world airline examples in the last 15 years.. I see FedEx, ups, southwest, all profitable but no huge gains. I see Spirit who actually went on strike, but didn't hit a home run. So again thinking of the mission of a corporation, yes there is a point where paying employees does create value for the shareholders and there is a point where it does not. Nobody ever knows for sure exactly where the CEO is willing to go (except for the folks on here) in that balancing act, but there certainly is a point where the CEO is willing to say "no" no matter what the leverage. Don't get me wrong, I want all I can get, but it ain't as easy as some on here make it appear and there certainly is not a "do xyz" and the cash comes rolling in. Now, there may be a different strategy than DALPA's constructive engagement and I am ok with that as well, but you will have show me the examples, tell me how it would work here before I get too excited. |
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