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To all of you who voted for the TA . With the displacements that are about to occur, let’s look at the numbers.
7ER FO displaced to 737 = 2.87% pay cut 737 FO displaced to M88 = 6.78% pay cut 7ER FO displaced to M88 = 9.46 % pay cut Add to this the increase in the Social Security tax of 2% and wow. If you don’t believe, me just compare a pay stub from last year with your January 15th stub. Where did the pay raise go? So we got a 4% pay raise in July and a 8.49% raise as of January 1. If you look at the numbers, some pilots this year are going to have a total pay raise, with the new contract and displacements, of approximately 1.03% and some will have a pay raise of 7.62%. If I don’t get displaced than I will get the full 10.49% pay raise. I am crossing my fingers. Contract 2012. “That’s the gift that keeps on giving all year long Clark,” “your right Eddie, that it is.” |
Hey Seamonster, not arguing with you, but if you're hanging your hat on comparing the Jan 15th paychecks, you're not actually looking at the 2013 rate. You need to get to the February 15 paycheck to make your point.
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
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Hey Seamonster, not arguing with you, but if you're hanging your hat on comparing the Jan 15th paychecks, you're not actually looking at the 2013 rate. You need to get to the February 15 paycheck to make your point.
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Originally Posted by seamonster
(Post 1330637)
To all of you who voted for the TA . With the displacements that are about to occur, let’s look at the numbers.
7ER FO displaced to 737 = 2.87% pay cut 737 FO displaced to M88 = 6.78% pay cut 7ER FO displaced to M88 = 9.46 % pay cut Add to this the increase in the Social Security tax of 2% and wow. If you don’t believe, me just compare a pay stub from last year with your January 15th stub. Where did the pay raise go? So we got a 4% pay raise in July and a 8.49% raise as of January 1. If you look at the numbers, some pilots this year are going to have a total pay raise, with the new contract and displacements, of approximately 1.03% and some will have a pay raise of 7.62%. If I don’t get displaced than I will get the full 10.49% pay raise. I am crossing my fingers. Contract 2012. “That’s the gift that keeps on giving all year long Clark,” “your right Eddie, that it is.” SM, Was this contract a great win for us - no. Was it a crushing defeat - no. Although you are correct in all your statements I don't see the point. I could just as easily pick a M88 guy on reserve that got bumped to M90 pay, and gets a bigger reserve guarantee all before the 4 and 8.5% pay-raises. Some guys will make out better than others. I don't really like this contract (disclaimer - voted yes) but I can live with it. Now if you are rehashing these contractual shortfalls in anticipation of DALPAs full two front, blitzkrieg like assault for TA-15 :eek: ( I can dream) well then I say "Bring it on!" Scoop :) |
Originally Posted by Elvis90
(Post 1330246)
I was always under the impression that a paycheck was for work that was completed 2 weeks ago, i.e., a 15 Jan 2013 check reflected work from 16-31 Dec 2012.
The 15th paycheck is pay for the previous month minus the flight pay advance you got. So the pay we received Jan. 15th is for Dec. I'm unsure whether the flit advance on Jan. 31 will include the 8.5% increase but it should all be kosher with the 15 Feb. paycheck. Denny |
Originally Posted by seamonster
(Post 1330637)
To all of you who voted for the TA . With the displacements that are about to occur, let’s look at the numbers.
7ER FO displaced to 737 = 2.87% pay cut 737 FO displaced to M88 = 6.78% pay cut 7ER FO displaced to M88 = 9.46 % pay cut Add to this the increase in the Social Security tax of 2% and wow. If you don’t believe, me just compare a pay stub from last year with your January 15th stub. Where did the pay raise go? So we got a 4% pay raise in July and a 8.49% raise as of January 1. If you look at the numbers, some pilots this year are going to have a total pay raise, with the new contract and displacements, of approximately 1.03% and some will have a pay raise of 7.62%. If I don’t get displaced than I will get the full 10.49% pay raise. I am crossing my fingers. Contract 2012. “That’s the gift that keeps on giving all year long Clark,” “your right Eddie, that it is.” What about 320 & M88 guys displaced to the 7er and 73N? |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1330459)
So...when are you going to bring it to Sebring and put it on the track?? :D Sebring - SVRA Endurance Classic
I'll buy the Torpedo's! Sierra Nevada Torpedo Extra IPA - Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. - Chico, CA - BeerAdvocate I'd love to trailer my 1st gen mr2 to sebring and run the urine out of it. That would probably end up in a bottle of sierra nevada.:D:eek: Not a fan of a single IPA I have drank. Now if you're buying the landshark, I'm in. |
Originally Posted by Jughead
(Post 1330473)
**Disclaimer**
I should know more about PBS than I do. I'm junior, and as such, usually just accept the fact that I will have a crappy schedule and not get the days off that I want. However, I don't understand the reasons many people junior to me get a line, and I'm on reserve again. I even have a coveted February vacation. I called the PBS help line and it went straight to VM. If anyone has any thoughts, I'd love to hear them. Thanks :) |
For me, the value of the TA was in the upgauging, and mainline growth. That's where I'm going to ultimately judge the value, or lack thereof, in this agreement. That's the piece of the puzzle that remains dynamic, and worthy of discussion. I knew the pay increases going in, and so did the other Yes voters. But if those payrates start jumping around on their own accord, contrary to the TA numbers, then let's by all means discuss it. Because at that point, it will be news.
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1330709)
What about 320 & M88 guys displaced to the 7er and 73N?
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