Not a good sales photo...

http://www.bloomberg.com/image/iexVq15VYzNA.jpg

ANA and JAL Ground Boeing 787 Fleets After Emergency - Bloomberg

Where is that chart available for viewing?

What evidence do you have that it wasn't intentional? Any business expert would tell you that critical information is going to get overlooked if it's disseminated just before a major holiday. Couple that with the rep changeover, and we have legitimate grounds for a black helicopter conspiracy.

Although its more plausible that the timeline merely jived with a pre-scheduled court date.

Two things I'd point out:

FIRST: Lots of military guys do understand angst.
They experienced angst when Delta began hiring large numbers of civilian pilots (like you). They got upset. Then they realized they don't make Delta's hiring decisions. Breathe in. Breathe out. Then they got over it. And low and behold, civilian guys really can fly. Who'd have guessed?

So don't talk down to military guys about not understanding your complex emotions.

SECOND: Are you still spinning off into outerspace because of the "Bridge Agreement" or the "Vault Letter"? Because, only one of those things is confirmed to exist. The other sounds pretty fishy to me, and I expect it is fiction.

Don't let people push your buttons. Someone is feeding you questionable "information" designed to make your head explode all over your keyboard. My advice is if they're so upset, tell them to act like a man and handle this themselves. Then, you are badly in need of a healthy dose of SportsCenter.

Your recall is incorrect.

I understood the issues in the RJDC problem, just as I understand the issues in Delta's current representational problem. Litigation against our union has never been the answer.

The Ford, Cooksey litigation obtained class status (if I am not mistaken). Unless members of the class opted out, then they were included in the class. Some pilots asked to be removed. I was among those removed. All this is recorded in the documents relating to the lawsuit.

Over what period of time? Ten years? If you did a sarcastical breakout of number of Asa pilots interviewed over the 2007-2010 range over their pilot group or percentage hired of those interviewed the numbers would be well above that.


What surprises me is this pinnacle deal has been out since December 21-22 and now that it has passed everyone seems shocked and concerned. The TA has passed and is now contractual. The bridge agreement is in full force as soon as it is signed by all parties. Should the concerned not been raised by the line pilot before this point in time?

What recourse do you recommend now? Do you want to put your hands in delta hiring practices and make them contractual? Serious questions that need to be asked of the group and then directed to the reps via resolution before the February MEC meeting.

What are you talking about? I'd buy one of those fire engines in a heartbeat!

Nothing like being launch customers.

Thus far, web board sources have been accurate sources of objective information. That is the unfortunate reality when Delta's MEC gets locked out of the room while another pilot group is doing deals with Delta management. We hear it from "them" first.

We need a primary level program to educate Status Reps on the basics of grass roots representation. How the representational structure of ALPA works and how attorneys work to represent their clients.

I've heard we have one Rep who came on to a web board and made false allegations designed to demean the character of one of the pilots he is responsible for protecting. If true, I'd say that guy does not really understand what "representation" means.

First off I've swapped a handful of emails with my rep on this issue. It wasn't put on an agenda until later this month, and at the MEC meeting next month. Recourse? We can grieve it. It was the MEC admin's decision to delay interest in it. I think a resolution should be passed that its the MEC's suggestion that no preference be given to the PNCL candidates during the interview. We don't have to have a hand in it, but we're certainly entitled to an opinion, aren't we?

There's nothing sarcastical about my concern over this issue.

My point is, is that if they expended negotiating capital on the Bridge Agreement, and it proves to be of little value, they're gonna be angry and may seek grievance based action against Delta.