I have him pegged as an appointed functionary who serves at the pleasure of the chairman. He collects FPL for posting here, and has absolutely ZERO accountability to those of us who pay him to spew ALPA's propaganda.

But if you're going ATL-LOS, why in the world would you divert to JFK? Guess its possible, just seems odd.

Perhaps I am misinterpreting your statement regarding Chuck Giambusso's concerns about ASA/Comair pilots. During C2K, the MEC pursued a flow through (flow through is a generic term) agreement at the bargaining table that would have hired from ASA/Comair (owned by Delta). It did not occur because the ASA and Comair MEC's didn't want it. Both the DAL MEC and the management team held the opinion these negotiations (and any agreement arising from) needed to have all parties at the table to be successful and accepted. Since the regional partners would not engage, the concept was withdrawn (in the spring of 2001).

Chuck G fully supported the idea of flow through and insisted that the regional carriers have every opportunity to engage.

Bar;

Guys like him that post rarely, but only when there is a political problem with one of the gravy train engineers, is as transparent to the rest of us as he is to you.

Glad you called him out.

Anyone know if we can change the settings on inverse assignment calls from the VRU?

WRT the Pinnacle issue, I think there are too many tangents being introduced into the discussion unintentionally. Mil vs Civ, B-scale... not relevant.

I'm not all that up to speed on it, but it would seem at first glance that we have A.- a representational issue. Who should be involved and have a seat at the table when discussing agreements with other, wholly owned airlines regarding flying done on the DL code? ALPA has already stated that they are looking at this... for now, that's good enough for me.

B. Is the nature of this agreement good for the piloting profession, and if not, should ALPA national be held accountable for the damage it causes?

This point is arguable because on the plus side, it preserves jobs for ALPA pilots. That's what ALPA says. What I think rubs many of us the wrong way is the fact that DELTA negotiated the purchase of a company in bankruptcy, while securing aircraft for them to fly from the mainline ALPA unit, (under GREAT time pressure I might add) -then directly negotiated with it's ALPA pilot unit without so much as consulting with our ALPA unit an agreement which sets pay rates to the lowest in the industry by - and this is the really smelly part-- PROMISING jobs at the mainline for the more senior pilots in return for their vote. That reeks like a sell out, like something that ALPA should NEVER have supported, after all that's happened to the profession over the years-- this should be the last thing that we'd want to do as a professional organization.

This sort of thing is what makes people wonder if ALPA is really a trustworthy agent of our interests. I think that without a full explanation, many pilots throughout the industry are going to wonder the same thing.

Could be the took a more northern route, and NY is further East... I don't really know, but that's what happened.

Great Circle route due to the Earths roundness.

So you're sayin slap it on the a$$ and ride the wave to JFK?

I saw the trip in open time last night. It had a "Y" in one of the remarks columns, which I think means you had better betaking your Malarone 2-3 days BEFORE you head out to the airport.

That requirement probably reduced the number of available pilots significantly. :D