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Post 120,000. Now get off my lawn.
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
(Post 1330272)
Don't you have to buy a round now or something?
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1329857)
Delta bought Pinnacle, did a deal with their pilots and purchased half of Virigin Atlantic without so much as a "how do you do ?" I'd say "constructive engagement" ended as soon as Delta Air Lines had our yes vote.
The will re-engage as they see fit. Since Delta can now negotiate with other pilot groups, engagement with us is not nearly as important as it used to be. Welcome to the portfolio guys. Carl |
Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
(Post 1330266)
His point, I believe, is that this is where it starts (or continues in the opinion of some). The easy money is to take away promises to the vets. General's want their latest jets, battlefield armory, and ships, but the money is drying up. Where do they go to cover the bills? To the retirees of course. Congress blames the Pentagon's budget requests, and the Pentagon, well, they don't care; those 3 and 4 star retirements are secure, and the board positions on the defense companies are always ready for a new member. Remember the promise by a certain someone who not too long ago said he wouldn't be balancing the budget on the backs of veterans? Those who didn't laugh at that load of horse squeeze don't know who they're dealing with.
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1330287)
There's no question this was done to us by ALPA national without any input from Delta pilots or their reps. Yet you sing of the virtues that being in ALPA supposedly brings us. So I have to ask you Bar: Should we still be glad to be members of an organization whose paid experts are the very people who remove us from the process of determining our futures? Has the point of diminishing returns been reached for you...yet?
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Originally Posted by Vikz09
(Post 1330292)
Nice to have Carl back. I agree watch your 6 with ALPA. My experience with the lawyers from ALPA is pretty appalling. Spent 7 years at air willy and their defense of our contract and the concessions given to maintain our United Express contract at the time was embarrassing. Could have done better with a ambulance chasing attorney. |
Originally Posted by sinca3
(Post 1330216)
You posted an add for a AUTOMATIC Supra TT, that's sacrilegious!! Had a lightly modded B7 S4 way back, but went more subdued after marriage.
Recently got the itch again for "boost" and found a cheap 335 that I've massaged another 100rwhp and 100rwtq out of. Fun car especially b/c no one expects it. Currently in the market for a more reliable fun car! As far as I know, automatics were the only available transmissions in the supra TT's. N/A's had available manuals. |
Originally Posted by Elvis90
(Post 1330246)
I was always under the impression that a paycheck was for work that was completed 2 weeks ago, i.e., a 15 Jan 2013 check reflected work from 16-31 Dec 2012.
You are right, I found it in the PWA as well. :o |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1330287)
There's no question this was done to us by ALPA national without any input from Delta pilots or their reps. Yet you sing of the virtues that being in ALPA supposedly brings us. So I have to ask you Bar: Should we still be glad to be members of an organization whose paid experts are the very people who remove us from the process of determining our futures? Has the point of diminishing returns been reached for you...yet?
Carl Our Reps still have time to act. If we fail to act, National will state that we (our Reps) did nothing. Who's fault is that ? I remain an ALPA supporter. Our union's governance is currently broken, but the documents which govern our actions have not changed. We have elected Reps, some of whom have not yet taken office, who better understand they represent voting line pilots (not non member staff attorneys, or individual politicians no matter how powerful they might be in this season). ALPA and Delta management timed this Pinnacle Bridge Agreement strategically, through a narrow window of opportunity ... over the Holidays, during a change in Delta MEC Administration and before the Rep Elects are to take office. There will be real harm as a result of this deal. You probably will be correct that my central defense of ALPA will be undermined by this Pinnacle Bridge Agreement. Not just Delta, but all mainline carriers may be forced out of our union as our express carriers pull up a seat and negotiate with our management for our flying. Or, maybe we will resolve the representational conflict through a merger. Maybe Lee Moak is going for the hail Mary pass ... structural unity. (I always want to give our union room to do the right thing and fix outsourcing by using their strongest tool, UNITY) The fact I do not know the strategic direction of our union is a direct result of our failure to even hold a meeting to consider the alleged breaches of the Railway Labor Act, Constitution and Administrative Manual. We can not know the outcome of a Special MEC meeting if we fail to even call the meeting. We can never know the result of an Executive Council if it never happens. ACL65 was correct when he said "process matters." I believe we are making progress in the form of our new Rep Elects, most of whom have stated they would call the meeting if they had the power to do so. |
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