Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-13-2013, 08:11 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: C130
Posts: 303
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
- Non Member Admin have much more power than voting members.
- Subversion of our Constitution, ByLaws and Admin Manual takes pilots' Reps out of the loop - my Reps were not involved in pilot labor negotiations with Delta management. Is it legitimate to recall a Rep for something they had nothing to do with and did not even know about? I think not.
- Too difficult and too destructive to recall the President of the organization over line item issues when there is a failure of governance (even I don't advocate a recall, but as long as he remains in power everyone fears even sending a letter which might hurt politically - difficult to get Reps to put the health of the organization over the short term political gamesmanship) Should we recall Reps for that? I think not.
The membership need an enforcement mechanism (short of the Courts) to resolve governance issues. A recall is too severe and too disruptive to the association and it's members. The issue is ripe for a cure. Anyone have suggestions?
I'm liking the electable chair thing. If ya wanna play politics, then you should be subject to the election process of the masses...thereby keeping the masses forefront in decision making/accountability.
05-13-2013, 08:33 AM
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 11,999
Originally Posted by grasshopper
Force them to fly Douglas products and let natural selection run its course?
05-13-2013, 09:47 AM
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2010
Position: MD88 A
Posts: 51
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
- Non Member Admin have much more power than voting members.
- Subversion of our Constitution, ByLaws and Admin Manual takes pilots' Reps out of the loop - my Reps were not involved in pilot labor negotiations with Delta management. Is it legitimate to recall a Rep for something they had nothing to do with and did not even know about? I think not.
- Too difficult and too destructive to recall the President of the organization over line item issues when there is a failure of governance (even I don't advocate a recall, but as long as he remains in power everyone fears even sending a letter which might hurt politically - difficult to get Reps to put the health of the organization over the short term political gamesmanship) Should we recall Reps for that? I think not.
The membership need an enforcement mechanism (short of the Courts) to resolve governance issues. A recall is too severe and too disruptive to the association and it's members. The issue is ripe for a cure. Anyone have suggestions?
Curbs both insider trading and mob rule.
05-13-2013, 10:43 AM
seeing the large hubs...
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: 73N A
Posts: 3,711
Originally Posted by block30
Where is Johnso29 at these days? Don't think I've seen him around here in awhile...
05-13-2013, 11:03 AM
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
DELETED... wrong date
Last edited by forgot to bid; 05-13-2013 at 11:18 AM.
05-13-2013, 11:06 AM
veut gagner à la loterie
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Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
if you can fly an airliner, you should be qualified to vote for your MEC Chairman.
05-13-2013, 11:16 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2013
Position: The Parlor
Posts: 1,243
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
You can back door ATL M88 B schedules.
I evidently put too many avoid 4-days, got reserve. Got the days I'd want, but I'd rather have them off with a line.
I evidently put too many avoid 4-days, got reserve. Got the days I'd want, but I'd rather have them off with a line.
05-13-2013, 11:19 AM
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
Originally Posted by MrMustache
How does that work? Nothing else is showing up...
05-13-2013, 11:22 AM
ATL A320 B
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: No longer MEM or 9, but still a guy.
Posts: 238
FTB, are you sure you are seeing June 2013. Back door on ATL 320B pulls up last years June right now.
05-13-2013, 11:54 AM
meh
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 828
Yep... still showing Jun 12. After a bit it will start showing the password required page. Finally it will show the Jun 13 awards about 30 min before they get officially released.
sigh.
Where is dem Jun awards??? can't...holdout...much...longer...
Wish we had a "like" button on this forum for posts, instead of having to quote a 500 line post and put "THIS^^^" below it. In any case, "like" Carl, gloopy, scambo, tanstaffl, gunshipguy, JackBauer, timbo, FTB, 80, etc. Thanks for the good reading while I wait for the bids to drop...
sigh.
Where is dem Jun awards??? can't...holdout...much...longer...
Wish we had a "like" button on this forum for posts, instead of having to quote a 500 line post and put "THIS^^^" below it. In any case, "like" Carl, gloopy, scambo, tanstaffl, gunshipguy, JackBauer, timbo, FTB, 80, etc. Thanks for the good reading while I wait for the bids to drop...
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