You parroted over and over that ALV+15 was for covering the long trips in international categories.

 

More people are voluntarily choosing reserve now than they were before the TA. I'm typically going to work 3-5 days a week whether I have a line or am on reserve so personally I'd rather have better QOL (weekends off in my case). As another recently stated, if it means less money, so be it. Matter of fact, when asked by a friend of mine how I was liking the job before the reserve rule changes and the TA I told him that while I'd like more pay I'd rather have everything else remain the same than change it. Too bad we couldn't have left it like it was and gotten 20%-5%-5% (and kept what we lost in profit sharing). Seems with everything my predecessors gave up, and how we're told pilots are as valued as much as they say we'd be worth at least that. With profits every quarter, and records being set it would seem an easy case to make that we've earned it.

 

That seat will go senior

 

14 days at 77 is 5.5 hours a day. Love to see pairings that high in pay...

 

Yep.

At Delta, 6 years barely gets 737 reserve in Atlanta.

 

Press releases from Alaska management on your contract and no.

 

That info is bunk. I just gave you the real numbers. Care to share the link to these press releases?

You're using the 6 year captain as an example of how relative position could go, right? 6 years is bubble for FO between line holder and reserve in the lower 48 too. ANC goes quite a bit jr.

Jr. captain is 12 years in ANC and 13 years for lower 48.

 

They could have that yesterday if they wanted to. But they would need as high a safety and reliability record which for airlines would require mind boggling redundancy all over the place. Way cheaper to hire us for a long time.

 

Have no doubt that you are correct on facts involving your seniority list. The Seattle Times posted that in 2009 your list was 1052 pilots, but in other articles they round off to "1,500." My other source, as luck would have it, is being edited by Alaska Airlines as we post. Try to catch it before the redirect. I'll try to get the Google cached link:

Employees & Collective Bargaining - Alaska Airlines

 

Would you have flown ALV+15 before as long as you were 2:01 below ALV?

Why does reserve have to be a punitive thing? Why should we want it to be punitive?

BTW, why are senior pilots bidding reserve? ALV-2 hours of pay and a month off, right? Well if they did that for a year, goofed one month and accidentally got a 14 days off 82 hour line, I bet they'd complain.

Very true.

I'm going to look at a bid packet here and run the numbers.

I'll use ATL88B as an example and I'm going to use the previously mentioned 80 hour ALV and 78 hour RES GUAR.

I'm looking at one particular RES line that is ON 02-03JUN, 07-11JUN, 14-18JUN, 21-25JUN, 27-30JUN.

On 02JUN this poor pilot gets 5804, 11.59 block hours.
07JUN, 6790, 22.36 block hours.
14JUN, 6091, 22.42 block hours.
21JUN, 6377, 22.38 block hours.

Now sitting at 77.29. They're still good for 27-30JUN and ALV+15 or [80]+15 or 95 hours. They're not good for any 4 days left on the 27th but they're good for 37 of the 38 3-days that start either on the 27th or 28th.

Now sure the bucket stuff should help, right? But this particular fellow is weekends ON reserve. He'll fly every day and probably never sit a SC, which if there isn't a 3 day on the 27th then he'll be #1 for SC since everyone else by that point would've had probably sat 3. Which is something that needs fixing, when you fly 77 hours and have 0 SCs you shouldn't be put on SC ahead of someone who has 3 and flown 0. But that's imho.