Guys,

The ability of the company to take a reserve pilot just shy of being full and flying him 14:59 above the ALV is indeed a concession. I just don't think it is that big of a deal and not worth all the angst it is given. Also, other parts of reserve have been improved.

If you guys want to complain, lets talk about 30 day months in the summer. This basically gives the company a 3.33 % productivity increase from all Pilots - lineholders and reserves. ALV + 15 will only affect a small portion of reserve pilots.

Yes, it will suck if you are hosed on reserve, but guys were randomly getting hosed on reserves since Orville and Wilbur first flipped a coin and Wilbur got a line and Orville got reserve (Ironically Orville actually got the first flight on the next attempt) this is not new to our new reserve system.


Bottom Line:

ALV +15 is a concession but reducing the busiest months of the year to 30 day bid periods is huge.

Scoop - Just my 2 cents.

 

While I don't really use any of the FDS stuff, it looks like they're transitioning to a web based service.

Anyone have any more details?

Nu

 

No arguments here!

 

It's probably too early. Call a few days out and they'll have you set up.

 

If you have a week of vacation which system would you rather have? In your example you would have already been full at 55:15 and never would have made it to 77 without a YS.

See how easy it is to pick one little piece of the contract to prove a point.

Here's another good one for you: 2 day RSV GS is now worth a min of 9 hours vs the old way of 4 hours - thanks to the ADG. RSVs average 8% more pay BEFORE you factor in the new rates. RSV has changed, some things are better and some are definitely worse. The group as a whole decided the entire package was better as a whole and so here we are.

The point is it doesn't really matter until we have our next opportunity to change RSV rules. There are tons of things that need to be improved upon, but agonizing each and every negative while largely ignoring the positives is not productive.

 

Exactly. It's not about what they will most likely do, it's about what they can do. That's why it's called a contract.

Would you negotiate for something you never intended to use? And ALPA is like "I doubt they will ever use that, so sure, they can have it".

I have said it before. Might, should, may, probably, best attempt and phrases like this have no place in a contract. They create loopholes.

 

Pilots who can not hold a line typically do not have the seniority to hold vacation over the summer, or holiday season.

 

I'm not trying to get in a tit for tat - to the contrary I was pointing out that there are pluses and minuses to our current system. Unfortunately there will always be a downside and someone will always feel they are being slighted.

I will say that the current system has had the unexpected result of more junior pilots being able to hold lines as very senior pilots are bidding RSV by choice. That is something that I would have valued greatly when I was a junior commuter always stuck on RSV - now not as much, but it does open up options on down the list. It hasn't been unusual to see REG pilots on the last page of the awards nor RSV pilots on the first page... Just offering up some food for thought. It's simply a different way of doing things. If enough of us hate it then we will make sure it goes back the other way at our next opportunity.

To be clear I'm not defending all aspects of our reserve system. There are many things that need to be fixed. I just find it disingenuous to rail on the negatives while ignoring the upside. Only by understanding the full picture will be able to make sound decisions at our next opportunity, whenever that may be.

 

Saw this elsewhere

 

Show me one piece of info where DALPA ever said the changes only effect international. I read what they put out and attended a road slow. That was never put out and the contract was available in full language to read and does not say that.