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05-02-2013 | 01:48 PM

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nwaf16dude

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From: 737A

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Originally Posted by Roadkill

I don't understand the "no credit" portion of this... how can you fly a trip with actual block time, and NOT get credit from the company and FAA for the trip? Am I not understanding what "credit" means here? What's the purpose of this no-credit, how does it help the company, or us? Can't understand it...
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I never really quite understood that either. Obviously the hours count for all FAA restrictions. What I think it means is that the "no credit" time doesn't count toward your max pickup limit for the month, i.e. you could still white slip to the max credit pickup if you are legal to fly FAA wise.

05-02-2013 | 01:49 PM

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iaflyer

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From: 73N A

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Originally Posted by Roadkill

Took me a while too - a GS just gets paid double-pay, it's not counted as "Credit" for things like filling up your bank. A regular trip is "Pay and Credit".

05-02-2013 | 02:01 PM

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TANSTAAFL

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From: Still in one

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Originally Posted by Check Essential

This guy is very talented. I don't have a problem with him selling his expertise.

I'd like to know if there was any "ALPA trip drops" involved.
That would be a problem.

Not if paid by the UAL MEC.

05-02-2013 | 02:05 PM

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orvil

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From: Decoupled

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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL

Not if paid by the UAL MEC.

Can a pilot be bought off of a DAL trip and be paid by the UAL MEC? That's a new one.

05-02-2013 | 02:13 PM

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nwaf16dude

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From: 737A

.......disregard, not going to add any fuel

05-02-2013 | 03:02 PM

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Check Essential

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From: 737 ATL

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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL

Not if paid by the UAL MEC.

Doesn't matter who pays it or even if nobody pays it. If ALPA in any way facilitated dropping any trips for him to run his outside, for profit, "consulting" business then I would have a big problem with that.

Can I get a second job and have "ALPA" trip drops when it conflicts with my Delta schedule?

We don't know if trip drops occurred. I highly doubt it. That would be a pretty serious ethical lapse.

Last edited by Check Essential; 05-02-2013 at 03:34 PM.

05-02-2013 | 03:41 PM

#129547

scambo1

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From: 777B

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Originally Posted by Roadkill

It helps the company because the trip operates. It helps the greenslipper because he is "legal" to fly the trip regardless of current monthly block hours. IOW, it is not counted for "time" as far as you or the company is concerned it just counts for pay.

I have no idea if it is tracked for FAR limits.

05-02-2013 | 04:35 PM

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From: DAL FO

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Originally Posted by orvil

Here is what struck me.

First, is he doing anything against ALPA National's policies? No, he isn't employed by ALPA National. He is an independent contractor who was recommended by ALPA National.

Second, is he doing anything that would violate DALPA's policies? Probably not. He isn't a current MEC administrator. He isn't on the LEC. If he receives any trip drops for this business, then it would require some very serious examination. To date, there haven't been any allegations of DALPA trip drops.

Third, is his business in violation of any Delta employment policies? Maybe. This is a really grey area. My personal opinion is the Company might not be too thrilled to discover his "side" business is helping two of their competitors.

He has expertise to sell. I just hope his activities don't get him into trouble with Delta. They could.

If Delta has a problem with this consulting, DALPA and ALPA will have to let him hang out to dry. It's a independent consulting business.

Don't know who we're talking about here, but how is consulting for another pilot group "helping" a competitor? I seriously doubt if RA cares which pilot group "wins" in the UAL/CAL SLI process. What am I missing?

05-02-2013 | 05:04 PM

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From: A big one that looks like a little one

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Originally Posted by LeineLodge

For as low strife as our SLI appeared to have been, and as difficult as the UAL/CAL SLI is going to be, they need all the help they can get. They deserve a fair and equitable list - I don't know why anyone would get aggravated over someone assisting to that end. You're not missing anything.

And I doubt he's getting ALPA dropped to help UAL. Has anyone checked the policy manual?