Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-24-2013, 06:25 AM
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Carl,
Our MEC both collectively and to a man can not under ALPA's Constitution advocate leaving ALPA. ALPA has a number of remedies and would likely throw the MEC into receivership ... nothing of that sort is going to happen ... so lets go back to the real World.
Just as ACL65 suggested, people need to continue to bring concerns with representational exclusion to their Reps. There is a perception that Delta pilots do not care about this issue.
Our MEC both collectively and to a man can not under ALPA's Constitution advocate leaving ALPA. ALPA has a number of remedies and would likely throw the MEC into receivership ... nothing of that sort is going to happen ... so lets go back to the real World.
Just as ACL65 suggested, people need to continue to bring concerns with representational exclusion to their Reps. There is a perception that Delta pilots do not care about this issue.
05-24-2013, 06:33 AM
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Just spitballin' but couldn't JB's move to increase competition on routes with major carriers be an attempt by their management to get one of said major carriers to purchase/merge with them?
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05-24-2013, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ITSALLGOOD
According to a senior network manager they are new 332 and 321s. WBs are 100% growth for SEA and LAX to Asia. 321s are roughly 50/50 growth and replacement. Caveat...he did not say the deal was done, just very close to done (this was a few days back so may be inked by now).
He also stated mainline will grow by nearly 130 jets by the end of 2017 based on current plans. That is net gain after subtracting planned retirements.
He also stated mainline will grow by nearly 130 jets by the end of 2017 based on current plans. That is net gain after subtracting planned retirements.
Would A321's be a new category, or just bigger planes that pay the same as a A319's?
05-24-2013, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
What I desire on the Pinnacle issue:
Depends, and whatever gets the most/majority support of the MEC, even if it is less than what a single person or Rep would desire. Being right and just is great, and going for what you singularity want may feel good, but if you fail to reach your objective(majority support), you fail in doing anything. If you desire something that gets majority support, it will always be less than what you want, but its more than you will get done without compromise on some level.
Depends, and whatever gets the most/majority support of the MEC, even if it is less than what a single person or Rep would desire. Being right and just is great, and going for what you singularity want may feel good, but if you fail to reach your objective(majority support), you fail in doing anything. If you desire something that gets majority support, it will always be less than what you want, but its more than you will get done without compromise on some level.
Every Officer of our union has an affirmative duty to uphold the Constitution of our union. Every Officer should seek compliance with our Admin Manual. Easy to agree there.
No need to plea bargain with national. No redress is sought and there is no punishment to levy. It is the very simple matter of placing management and ALPA on notice.
ALPA's certainly read enough Letters of Warning to know how to write one. No finding of guilt to dispute; just a clarification that we expect compliance.
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05-24-2013, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Bainite
Would A321's be a new category, or just bigger planes that pay the same as a A319's?
05-24-2013, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Bainite
Would A321's be a new category, or just bigger planes that pay the same as a A319's?
"The A321 typically accommodates 185 passengers in a two-class configuration (16 in first class and 169 in economy) – while offering unbeatable economics in high-density seating (with up to 220 passengers) for charter and low-cost operators".
http://www.airbus.com/aircraftfamili...20family/a321/
05-24-2013, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Just spitballin' but couldn't JB's move to increase competition on routes with major carriers be an attempt by their management to get one of said major carriers to purchase/merge with them?
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05-24-2013, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
It is easier than that.
Every Officer of our union has an affirmative duty to uphold the Constitution of our union. Every Officer should seek compliance with our Admin Manual. Easy to agree there.
No need to plea bargain with national. No redress is sought and there is no punishment to levy. It is the very simple matter of placing management and ALPA on notice.
ALPA's certainly read enough Letters of Warning to know how to write one. No finding of guilt to dispute; just a clarification that we expect compliance.
Every Officer of our union has an affirmative duty to uphold the Constitution of our union. Every Officer should seek compliance with our Admin Manual. Easy to agree there.
No need to plea bargain with national. No redress is sought and there is no punishment to levy. It is the very simple matter of placing management and ALPA on notice.
ALPA's certainly read enough Letters of Warning to know how to write one. No finding of guilt to dispute; just a clarification that we expect compliance.
The hair splitting of fleet guarantees that are in the bridge agreement are for the permitted aircraft that can be flown off of the DAL seniority list. Its a guarantee to the Pinnacle Pilots and mirrored in the commercial agreement of permitted aircraft. If I recall its says the PWA of the DAL pilots still governs too. Depending on how you see this wording would determine if the AM section 40 even needed to have the meet and confer, or if the negotiations DALPA had and that meet and confer sufficed. That is one of the differences of opinion I have seen on this. Most do not understand any of it to begin with, and before they can make a decision, they desire to understand that as well as legal, C&BL and PM ramifications or issues. Once that understanding is there, then people can start their process of deciding what, if anything they want to do.
05-24-2013, 07:52 AM
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Good interview and insight into our CEO's view of the industry:
Delta CEO Richard Andersen on Airline Industry: Video - Bloomberg
Delta CEO Richard Andersen on Airline Industry: Video - Bloomberg
05-24-2013, 07:53 AM
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Has anyone here done a mortgage with Delta Community Credit Union (or Wings for that matter)?
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