the Worldport,sigh, JFK has always been my field of dreams, and Pan AM. well I remember when not only the SST,but suborbital flight(2001) was its future, ironically I finally flew a Pan AM 747, a 200,in freight dog colors, and the irony did not escape me.

 

6 greenslips by 0550 today. Atl88a

 

It'll be interesting to see if the increase in greenslips are the result of our sick leave policy resetting on June 1st. Or are we gonna see a busy summer.

 

Not possible, I read on this forum that we gave up hundreds if not thousands of jobs in the last contract. Since the block hours are the same this summer as last we have to have a massive over staffing situation.

 

Just when I thought you'd lost your sense of humor, you surprised me.

 

Carl;

You are not going to like my answer, call it political and a non answer, but imo your letter makes too many assumptions.

It is easy to say "yes" to your letter since in it, you state that the MEC is unanimous in its position. If that were the case then this is their position and it would have the entire MEC's support.

I doubt that is what you are really asking, but the letter and the question are written that way.

So,
1) I am not not sure this is the best or most effective approach to this. This letter is not something you write to get what you want from an organization. Its a letter you write to do what you say in the second half of the letter; leave.

2) Second question is flawed because of the first question and letter.


My goals are different than yours. I am not looking to leave ALPA. My goals are to make us stronger. Better results for our pilots and the local, MEC and National level.

What I desire on the Pinnacle issue:
Depends, and whatever gets the most/majority support of the MEC, even if it is less than what a single person or Rep would desire. Being right and just is great, and going for what you singularity want may feel good, but if you fail to reach your objective(majority support), you fail in doing anything. If you desire something that gets majority support, it will always be less than what you want, but its more than you will get done without compromise on some level. If you desire just a letter like yours, not much will be accomplished, except to incite a pilot group and usher them towards the door with ALPA. That is your goal since you say they are a failed organization. A letter of C&BL interpretation, letter of warning, a C&BL, AM or PM change, plus many others are options that accomplish the same goal without the divisiveness and threats you pen are available if the MEC decides.

If, when the MEC does anything is unknown, but some things take time and patience. This much I have learned. The one that has the longest patience generally is the one that moves the ball the farthest towards the end zone.

 

Carl,

Our MEC both collectively and to a man can not under ALPA's Constitution advocate leaving ALPA. ALPA has a number of remedies and would likely throw the MEC into receivership ... nothing of that sort is going to happen ... so lets go back to the real World.

Just as ACL65 suggested, people need to continue to bring concerns with representational exclusion to their Reps. There is a perception that Delta pilots do not care about this issue.

 

Just spitballin' but couldn't JB's move to increase competition on routes with major carriers be an attempt by their management to get one of said major carriers to purchase/merge with them?

Denny

 

Would A321's be a new category, or just bigger planes that pay the same as a A319's?

 

It is easier than that.

Every Officer of our union has an affirmative duty to uphold the Constitution of our union. Every Officer should seek compliance with our Admin Manual. Easy to agree there.

No need to plea bargain with national. No redress is sought and there is no punishment to levy. It is the very simple matter of placing management and ALPA on notice.

ALPA's certainly read enough Letters of Warning to know how to write one. No finding of guilt to dispute; just a clarification that we expect compliance.