You nailed it.

It was actually a SPOT scenario that had an MEL before we went flying into the W/S, to be fair...Still far too many "right" places to find stuff. I didn't even mention the Airway Manual

06-04-2013 | 03:30 PM

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Fly4hire

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Exactly my point re: LGBP. how do you sell a newbie on coming to DAL vice UAL if he has that difference over the course of a career to compare? Financial planning 101.

And what makes you so sure the agragate composite LGBP wouldn't be dumbing down of the current agragate pay rates based on type?

Also how much productivity on a permantly decreased head count would we be conceding?

A further concern with LGBP is it would incentify WB outsourcing. Some might say who cares so long as we get paid what a WB does which is questionable to begin with, but as soon as we become domestic feed for outsourced international on the top and jumbo shrimp RJ's on the bottom we could be facilitating
serious staffing surpluses.

It's not just pay, but also growth and the ability to upgrade. LGBP is fine as long as I've got mine and don't think I'm going any further.

06-04-2013 | 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead

Don't see it. I beg of you, for all things holy, stay away. Worst movie I've seen in a long, long time. Don't see it, rent it, borrow it. If you're on a layover in DAY, and it's on HBO, change the channel to QVC. Run away.

Fuel dump valves. Back up hydraulics. Manual control flight control handles. Winglets. GPWS warnings at FL 300. "Say, I love you, Trevor." Squirrel shots. John Goodman.

Don't do it.

Yeah, but then there's the opening scene...

Cheers
George

06-04-2013 | 03:32 PM

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Fly4hire

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You should see their new office a few blocks from the WH...

Emirates Seeks Global Supremacy With A380s Flying Asia-US Routes - Bloomberg

Will we fight or retreat and code share? Got PAC?

06-04-2013 | 03:35 PM

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Yeah, but then there's the opening scene...

Cheers
George

Yup. That was the only thing that was legit.

Brown cow, chicken, brown cow.

06-04-2013 | 03:41 PM

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When the big cheese in charge of your union is a proponent of the outsourcing model (ie "RJ's flown by DCI are good for Delta Pilots in the long run"), it will be very difficult to ever stem the bleeding of mainline Delta pilots jobs. When those running DALPA (often ignoring the concept of representation) still bow to the ALPA national president and mirror his policies you are double screwed.

I have said this before and I will say it again...within the current union there is no long term strategy to convert the job back into a profession. You want a sign? Giving/selling productivity work rules to the pilot ranks during times of record profits, hampering movement across the board. There's your sign.

Airlines expect third-most-profitable year since 2001

06-04-2013 | 03:43 PM

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Another outstanding layover coming up.
Somebody mentioned Nashville a few pages back. Next week is the Country Music Association annual shindig in BNA. They close off the streets down around all the honkytonks on Broadway. It is a most excellent street party.

Uniform for females is mini-skirts with cowboy boots. Mighty fine eye-candy.

This post has come back to haunt me. Guess how my 17 year old daughter and her friends were dressed when they walked out the door to go to the Braves game? They claim it's a Western/Country theme tonight. All you young guys with daughters just wait.

06-04-2013 | 03:58 PM

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Thanks George. I found it and the downward trend continues. The last report showed 10,491 pilots and this one shows 10,446.

If you look at the latest letter from crew planning they list the block hour reductions. It shows that the new contract has had little to no impact on staffing. The block hour reductions were higher then what they had planned. That however starts to turn around in the last quarter.

06-04-2013 | 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

I was discussing the disappearance of the 737-200 though. 156 of them in 2000 and 0 around by the time we had 255 CRJ-700/900/E170/E175s flying around. FWIW, except for the E170s those other airplanes are according to wikipedia longer than the 732.

Three questions:

1. If regional flying YOY is decreasing, why then did we bother allowing more jumbo RJs in exchange for 717s and fewer CRJ-200s if they were going to go away anyways? We haven't gotten any 717s yet, so no new super premium regional jets are allowed, so no reason to drop 50 seaters unless they were not wanted anyways and/or we could live without them anyways, right?

2. DCI decreasing, what about jumbo RJs, did they decrease? Did they break that out?

3. Related to question 3, if for some reason they're cutting or reducing jumbo RJ use... is that a bad sign for our management team to purchase expensive new RJs and then not use them while turning around and ordering 70 more in December 2012 ? Delta orders up to 70 Bombardier regional jets | Business & Technology | The Seattle Times

I'm going to beat the jumbo and super premium jumbo RJ drum until at least C2015.

Wrong again, we never had 156 737-200's. We had I believe 54-56.Back then the fleet consisted of 14 MD-11's, 55-60 L-1011's, the ER's, 16 767-200's, the domestic 767-300's, 70 737-800's, 125ish 727's, the 73G, some 737-300's that were former Western, the MD-88's and MD-90's, and the 54-56 737-200's.