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Originally Posted by iceman49
(Post 1439351)
Bar, would love to know how the pilot did the 4.5 million retirement, have a hard time believing it was from NWA.
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
(Post 1439122)
Let me help you out a little.
Displacements, displacements, displacements. Call it what the PWA may, we're being monitored and so far the new PWA would to some seem more onerous than the prior. Again, maybe they're not lies, but they're slanted to give the reader the impression of a one sided and less than wholly accurate picture. In fact, you had a completely accurate picture, it is just you chose to think it meant something else. It was clearly stated that the 717's would be on the property in September and that is two months away. It was clearly stated that this transition was a three year process that hasn't even begun yet. I am not sure what you expected but what is happening is exactly what you were told. |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1439296)
So wouldn't that tell you that there is a lot more to this negotiation thingy than just demanding stuff and folding our arms? Just asking, because if that is all there is to it, then the doughnut holes are right. Let's fire ALPA, demand what we "deserve" and wait a couple of weeks to sign the first big check. It all must be so simple... I wonder why ALPA can't deliver on everybody's nirvana.
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 1439354)
You do know that hundreds of pilots have upgraded to Captain already right? Just because it's not you it doesn't mean it hasn't happened. And the first 717 is not even on the property yet. When you saw that 737-900's were replacing 757's (clearly stated in the TA analysis) what did you expect to happen to 7ER staffing? Did you really think they would keep the same number of pilots while reducing the aircraft count? By the way I am a 7ER captain and my category is shrinking away, just like I thought it would when everyone said openly and repeatedly that they were retiring 757's. In over two decades of flying I have never seen a time when they cut back on a specific type of aircraft and didn't reduce the staffing on that aircraft. Is that something you are used to seeing?
In fact, you had a completely accurate picture, it is just you chose to think it meant something else. It was clearly stated that the 717's would be on the property in September and that is two months away. It was clearly stated that this transition was a three year process that hasn't even begun yet. I am not sure what you expected but what is happening is exactly what you were told.
Originally Posted by daldude
(Post 1438773)
Yes I saw that also, more displacements off of the 75/76 in August. That is literally crushing the JR FO's
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1439291)
Ax yourself. Why is it crushing them?
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1439358)
For the average line pilot, what else is there out of curiosity? And why should there be anything else?
How successful was APA, and what leads you to believe that we would be any different? I'll help you start. But but but.. DAL is making dump truck loads of money..... Here's what you need think about if you want to go down that road. Yes, that is true. However, management has their hands on the checkbook. The RLA never expires. How long do you think it will take before we would be released to self help, and how much do you believe we can get when we are released. Now please factor in all the money we will have lost. (TVM for all you home gamers, and again, if you do not believe that concept is real, ask an American pilot how the lack of it has worked for him) Not being belligerent, just asking the question. Here's your chance to produce a workable plan as to how long we can stand with arms akimbo and what it will gain us. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1439362)
Better question T, why isn't it crushing them?
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I called in sick for a 4-day last month and nobody called be. What am I doing wrong? I must not be using enough sick leave.
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For those of you history buffs interested in a great watch on a rainy 4th of July, they are replaying the mini-series John Adams on HBO today.
Happy 4th of July APC'ers! |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1439367)
Wow, seriously? Do you remotely think that will be an effective strategy?
How successful was APA, and what leads you to believe that we would be any different? I'll help you start. But but but.. DAL is making dump truck loads of money..... Here's what you need think about if you want to go down that road. Yes, that is true. However, management has their hands on the checkbook. The RLA never expires. How long do you think it will take before we would be released to self help, and how much do you believe we can get when we are released. Now please factor in all the money we will have lost. (TVM for all you home gamers, and again, if you do not believe that concept is real, ask an American pilot how the lack of it has worked for him) Not being belligerent, just asking the question. Here's your chance to produce a workable plan as to how long we can stand with arms akimbo and what it will gain us. Second, let me put it this way: Scott Boras (super agent): Hey A-Rod, hey man, about these negotiations, yeah... this won't work unless you get down here and volunteer in the office. A-Rod: |
Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1439371)
For those of you history buffs interested in a great watch on a rainy 4th of July, they are replaying the mini-series John Adams on HBO today.
Happy 4th of July APC'ers! |
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