Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Anyone watch Naked and Afraid on Discovery? Pretty cool concept/show. I'd post pictures but they'd get deleted by admin.
Maybe the 777 guys can help me out here, but I wonder if it wasn't something as simple as automation confusion?
Consider that we know the GS was out of service and that ATC seems to always keep you high on those visual approaches to the 28's. It's logical they would have been descending in FLCH (airspeed controlled by pitch and autothrottles kept at idle). If TDZ elevation was set in the altitude window while descending in FLCH, and there was no active glide slope for them to capture, what if they simply disconnected the autopilot and flew visually once they captured a visual glide path. They may have kept the autothrottles engaged thinking it would be there to hold the target approach speed for them...but autothrottles would have stayed at idle due to FLCH mode. If everyone assumed the autothrottles would do their job, and nobody was watching airspeed, that's one explanation as to how an experienced crew could have gotten so slow.
Just a thought...and could well be wrong since I don't know the 777 modes.
Carl
Consider that we know the GS was out of service and that ATC seems to always keep you high on those visual approaches to the 28's. It's logical they would have been descending in FLCH (airspeed controlled by pitch and autothrottles kept at idle). If TDZ elevation was set in the altitude window while descending in FLCH, and there was no active glide slope for them to capture, what if they simply disconnected the autopilot and flew visually once they captured a visual glide path. They may have kept the autothrottles engaged thinking it would be there to hold the target approach speed for them...but autothrottles would have stayed at idle due to FLCH mode. If everyone assumed the autothrottles would do their job, and nobody was watching airspeed, that's one explanation as to how an experienced crew could have gotten so slow.
Just a thought...and could well be wrong since I don't know the 777 modes.
Carl
I'm going to stop reading about it. Just saw an article in the USA Today that said that determining the cause of the crash could take years. First reaction: Why? They have video of the crash, the black/orange boxes are intact, and the pilots are alive.
.....I'm already distracted. Duck Dynasty is on.
.....I'm already distracted. Duck Dynasty is on.
This one is going to be pretty cut and dry pretty dang quick.
Words of wisdom from granddad:
"Those yuppie girls don't even like crawfish. If you ask them if they like them, and they hem and haw, dump them out right away."
Someone got some video of the asiana Hitting the end of the runway. It is from far away.
Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com
Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com
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IMHO, it's not laziness that prevents more pilots from doing this, it's the burden it puts on the PM in addition to his normal duties.
I'm not opposed to the DPA. I'm not opposed to DALPA. But I am opposed to ALPA National. I'd rather be independent.
Let me guess, AMR wants DOH?
Whoa. I kept hearing "it cartwheeled" and thought how would it have kept its wings if it cartwheeled. But that's sort of a flat cartwheel. I wonder what airliner (747 maybe) was taxing out?
Let me guess, AMR wants DOH?
Whoa. I kept hearing "it cartwheeled" and thought how would it have kept its wings if it cartwheeled. But that's sort of a flat cartwheel. I wonder what airliner (747 maybe) was taxing out?
AMR will likely want relative- US's pilot population is crazy old, while AMR has an overall cross section and retirement to 50% nearly identical to ours. US's retirement to 50% is around 2019... AMR's is ~2024 like us.
The 777 in its final position had rotated all the way around and then some, and definitely showed a wing in that video. Amazing the wings stayed attached. Boeing builds a hoss of an airplane!
The airliner taxiing out was UAL885 (a 744) to KIX. They subsequently cancelled.
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