Dang Carl! I think hell just froze over. You and I agree on something!!!!

And I mean other then the fact that you're an excellent golfer.

And your problem with that would be what? That there would be more guys making as much or more than you? How arrogant. I could even make the case for a DOH merger because equipment wouldn't make one iota of difference. Or are you afraid that an Alaska pilot would want to commute halfway across the country to take your seat when he could continue to drive to work and make the same money and be home every night? Shiny jet syndrome. You are at the top and anything that threatens the appearance of that scares you to death.

Johnso, better scope protection? We are talking about enforcing the scope we have! We could have the best scope section in the world, but if we (ALPA) bend the rules every time the company comes asking, it's worthless.

Boeing deploys additional 717s to Qantas, Volotea - Yahoo! Finance

SEATTLE, June 25, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing's (BA) workhorse 717 continues to figure prominently in the success of established and new operators as the manufacturer's leasing unit, Boeing Capital Corp., announced additional deployments of the modern and fuel-efficient twinjets.
Australia's largest regional airline, QantasLink, will receive an additional five leased 717s to add to its existing fleet of 13 of the twinjets that operate across Australia. Those deliveries will begin in late 2013 after the aircraft are refitted with upgraded interiors to include a full business class experience and new in-flight entertainment systems. The Qantas Group has operated the 717s since 2002.
QantasLink Executive Manager John Gissing said the refurbished aircraft will improve its customer offering and increase the overall level of customer comfort and satisfaction.
"The new 717s, with the reconfigured cabin including business class and in-flight entertainment, are perfectly suited to our Sydney-Canberra, Brisbane-Canberra and Melbourne-Canberra routes," said Gissing. "We're delighted that we can offer this premium product to our customers and we're looking forward to introducing them into the market later this year."
In Europe, startup carrier, Volotea, will increase its 717 fleet in 2013 to a total 15 as it continues to develop its business model of offering point-to-point service to passengers between medium and small-sized European cities. Volotea began operation in spring 2012 with a network built around the 717 that is supported by a comprehensive Boeing solution for operations and training.
Volotea recently surpassed the million passenger mark enabled by its operation from 52 European airports, currently serving 97 city pairs.
"The Boeing 717 is an important element to Volotea strategy," said Carlos Munoz, Volotea's founder and CEO. "In terms of size, it is the right aircraft for the medium- and small-sized cities we serve; operationally, it offers top reliability for our frequent, quick turnaround operations. Most importantly, our customers have grown to value the levels of comfort the 717 provides."
According to Boeing Capital's managing director for asset management, Thomas Hansen, 2013 will be a landmark year for the 717, the single-largest model holding in its fleet.
"Our deployments scheduled for this year will result in all of our 717s doing what they do best, and that is helping customers to make money thanks to the airplane's great operating reliability and their 'big-airplane' style passenger experience," said Hansen.
Hansen added that 2013 will also mark the beginning of a major redeployment of its 717 currently operated by the former AirTran Airways, now part of Southwest Airlines, to Delta Airlines under a sub-lease agreement announced in 2012.
There are more than 150 Boeing 717s in service today since the first airplane was delivered in 1999. The twinjet's technology and fleet performance have earned it the distinction of being the world's best jetliner serving the 100-passenger airline market.

Law of averages man. It had to happen sometime.

Carl

Preeeeee-cisely.

Carl

Could be just "structuring" them into a JV that favors them with a massive 3 year disparity unbalance period and a "what are you gonna do, grieve it?" snap shot remedy period after both sides pull down to synnergize and our "cure period" is based off the 3 year low. Can we get a what what?


Who? And what is his/her track record of being pro DL pilot in JV alliances?

Such as...

How is this good for us?

Carl....

And just how is that good for us? If the JV is built with less transAtlantic flying on their part PRIOR to the JV language being drawn up, that translates to less flying for us in the event of a AF/KLM-like JV deal. You should be hoping that the DAL/VA deal happens tomorrow, BEFORE their flying gets pulled down. And as to bullet point 4, there is no JV at this time, only a codeshare,unless you are referring to the AF/KLM JV...

The contract will have to be opened Einstein. There is no language currently that adressess a JV with VA. Therefore nothing to grieve at this point. That language will have to be created. That requires opening the contract. Leverage.