Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-27-2013, 11:50 AM
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I read this, and had to make a comment. You don't like what our union is doing to our careers? Are you really angry? Well, do something about it! Run for office! Do some committee work! If you haven't done anything, I can only assume that you're either too lazy, or too risk averse to run for a position.
Like the other keyboard commandoes, you do nothing but sit on the sidelines, throwing rocks at the people who are actually trying to improve our prospects. Do you really think that you can effect change while sitting in your boxers in your hotel room, hammering away on a keyboard?
Despite what you may think, what is said on this board doesn't alter the course of our union. To even a greater extent than the ALPA message boards, this is becoming a forum for the disaffected outliers. Rational, balanced views are met with criticism and personal attacks.
Do you actually wonder why so many people have left this forum? I used to be on here frequently (back in the ACL65 days, when there was good information to be found here). Now, this thread is worth no more than an occasional drive-by. There still are some worthwhile posters on here (no, you're not one of 'em), but their voices are being drowned out by too many keyboard commandoes.
Like the other keyboard commandoes, you do nothing but sit on the sidelines, throwing rocks at the people who are actually trying to improve our prospects. Do you really think that you can effect change while sitting in your boxers in your hotel room, hammering away on a keyboard?
Despite what you may think, what is said on this board doesn't alter the course of our union. To even a greater extent than the ALPA message boards, this is becoming a forum for the disaffected outliers. Rational, balanced views are met with criticism and personal attacks.
Do you actually wonder why so many people have left this forum? I used to be on here frequently (back in the ACL65 days, when there was good information to be found here). Now, this thread is worth no more than an occasional drive-by. There still are some worthwhile posters on here (no, you're not one of 'em), but their voices are being drowned out by too many keyboard commandoes.
Let me help you make more money for doing even less. I'll get right on that right after you volunteer to fly one of my trips so I have time to do your job.
I wouldn't need to volunteer if the organization that I pay wasn't such a yard sale.
06-27-2013, 12:04 PM
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The scope work around is ramping up. Does anybody know if DALPA has commented at all regarding this activity (ie Skywest flying more and more RJ's under the Alaska Airlines brand, our code share partner and the huge large RJ orders in the pipeline)?
Multiple new routes announced
Colorado Springs, Colo. and Omaha, Neb. among the new cities served
June 27, 2013
Colorado Springs
Colorado Springs, Alaska's newest destination as of Nov. 1, served by SkyWest, is more than a mile high and is surrounded by mountains, making it an outdoor-lovers paradise.
By Christy True
Alaska Airlines will begin flying to Omaha, Neb., and Colorado Springs, Colo. this fall in addition to connecting to a number of cities the carrier already serves. The new flying announced today will be handled by sister carrier Horizon Air and regional partner SkyWest Airlines.
“Alaska Airlines is thrilled to give our customers access to four great destinations from our Seattle and Portland hubs including daily service to our newest destinations of Colorado Springs and Omaha,” said Joe Sprague, vice president of marketing. “This new service provides convenient flight options for both business and leisure travelers, and further strengthens our growing network.”
The new flights flown by SkyWest will use three CRJ-700 regional jets owned by Horizon Air, which are returning from a lease to South African Express Airways. The routes include: Seattle-Colorado Springs, Colo.; Seattle-Omaha, Neb.; Boise, Idaho – San Diego; and Portland-Tucson, Ariz. All flights start Nov. 1, except Omaha, which starts Nov. 7.
The new routes flown by Horizon on Q400s are Portland-Reno, Nev., and seasonal service between Mammoth, Calif. – San Diego (Dec. 19-April 13). Horizon currently serves Reno from both Seattle and San Jose. Mammoth is currently served by Horizon on a year-round basis from LAX.
“While we do not believe these markets have enough demand to support an Alaska 737 aircraft today, they will be good contributors to the network as part of our regional portfolio,” said Ben Munson, director of network planning. “The aircraft type deployed on each new route will be ideally suited for the market considering stage length, demand, and average fares. These markets will support the entire AAG network as we grow our hubs in Seattle and Portland, in addition to our growing presence in San Diego.”
Where have we heard this before?
All the new routes will be on sale, or have special offers upon launch. See alaskaair.com for specific fare sales.
Below is detailed information on each new market or route:
SkyWest-operated flights
Seattle-Omaha, Neb.
Aircraft: CRJ-700 (70 seats)
Distance: 1,368 miles
Schedule:
SEA-OMA: 10:40 am – 3:45 p.m. (daily)
OMA-SEA: 4:15 – 5:45 p.m. (daily)
Omaha zoo
The Henry Doorly Zoo in Omaha is one of the attractions that contributed to Kiplinger's naming the city the number one place for raising kids. It also has a broad employment base with several large companies headquarted there.
Market description and competitive landscape: Omaha, Neb., is the largest unserved market from Seattle within the range of the CRJ-700. Omaha is considered a popular destination for business travel as well as for travelers visiting friends and family in the area.
According to a visitor website, Omaha is the largest city in Nebraska and is home to several Fortune 500 companies including Berkshire Hathaway, ConAgra Foods and the Union Pacific Railroad.
As far as visitor attractions, the web site touts zoos and animal parks, an aquarium, an indoor tropical rainforest, a historic soda fountain and the Durham Museum – an art deco train station that has been transformed into a hands-on history museum. For outdoor activities, the city boasts 150 miles of walking and biking trails, several lakes and the Heartland of America Park with a 300-foot fountain and gondola rides on the Missouri River.
Seattle-Colorado Springs
Aircraft: CRJ-700 (70 seats)
Distance: 1,067 miles
Schedule:
COS-SEA: 8:00 - 9:55 a.m. (daily)
SEA-COS: 6:20 – 9:55 pm (daily)
Market description and competitive landscape: This route, the only non-stop service in the market, is designed to improve Alaska’s network from Seattle. Non-stop service is expected to stimulate travel in the market, particularly from those that drive from Colorado Springs to Denver today. Historically, travelers have flown to Denver on a low fare and made the 90 minute drive to Colorado Springs.
This flight will also serve as a maintenance transition flight for SkyWest.
Colorado Springs, the second largest city in Colorado after Denver, is home to the U.S. Air Force Academy, an Army base and two Air Force bases. A number of defense and high-tech companies also have a strong presence there and tourism is the third economic driver.
A visitor website touts the area’s weather, boasting of 300 days of sunshine a year and outdoor attractions such as 14,115-foot-tall Pikes Peak and Garden of the Gods, a registered National Natural Landmark consisting of towering sandstone rock formations. For indoor fun, the town hosts a wide variety of museums, including the World Figure Skating Museum, shopping, art galleries and a winery inside an abbey in nearby Cañon City.
Boise – San Diego
Aircraft: CRJ-700 (70 seats)
Distance: 749 miles
Schedule:
BOI-SAN: 10:20-11:25 a.m. (daily)
SAN-BOI: 5:35-8:40 p.m. (daily)
Market description and competitive landscape: Alaska will offer the only non-stop service in the market. In addition to serving the local market, the flight is also timed for easy connections on Alaska’s flight to Los Cabos, Mexico, giving Boise area residents access to two sun-filled destinations. The addition of San Diego will make Alaska the largest carrier from Boise, both in terms of seats and departures.
Portland-Tucson
Aircraft: CRJ-700 (70 seats)
Distance: 1,119 miles
Schedule:
PDX-TUS 9:15 a.m. -1:05 p.m. (daily)
TUS-PDX 1:35-3:30 p.m. (daily)
Market description and competitive landscape: Alaska will offer the only non-stop service in the market, which is the largest unserved market from Portland within the range of the CRJ-700. The Portland service will complement existing nonstop SEA-TUS flights. The availability of a non-stop flight is expected to stimulate travel on this route. Marketing also expects to gain travelers who traditionally fly to Phoenix and then make the two-hour drive to Tucson.
Horizon-operated flights
Portland-Reno, Nev.
Aircraft: Q400 (76 seats)
Distance: 444 miles
Schedule:
PDX-RNO: 11:10 a.m.-12:45 p.m. (daily)
RNO-PDX 1:15-2:50 p.m. (daily)
Market description and competitive landscape: Southwest is reducing capacity in this market, leaving an opportunity for Alaska to add one round-trip flight and build its network from Portland. Reno is one of the most under-served markets from Portland without Alaska Airlines service.
San Diego-Mammoth Lakes, effective Dec. 19 - April 13 (Seasonal Service)
Aircraft: Q400
Distance: 350 miles
SAN-MMH: 5:30 - 7 p.m. Every day except Saturday
MMH-SAN: 7:30-9 p.m. Every day except Saturday
SAN-MMH: 9:30 – 11 a.m. Saturdays only
MMH-SAN: 11:30 a.m. - 1 p.m. Saturdays only
Multiple new routes announced
Colorado Springs, Colo. and Omaha, Neb. among the new cities served
June 27, 2013
Colorado Springs
Colorado Springs, Alaska's newest destination as of Nov. 1, served by SkyWest, is more than a mile high and is surrounded by mountains, making it an outdoor-lovers paradise.
By Christy True
Alaska Airlines will begin flying to Omaha, Neb., and Colorado Springs, Colo. this fall in addition to connecting to a number of cities the carrier already serves. The new flying announced today will be handled by sister carrier Horizon Air and regional partner SkyWest Airlines.
“Alaska Airlines is thrilled to give our customers access to four great destinations from our Seattle and Portland hubs including daily service to our newest destinations of Colorado Springs and Omaha,” said Joe Sprague, vice president of marketing. “This new service provides convenient flight options for both business and leisure travelers, and further strengthens our growing network.”
The new flights flown by SkyWest will use three CRJ-700 regional jets owned by Horizon Air, which are returning from a lease to South African Express Airways. The routes include: Seattle-Colorado Springs, Colo.; Seattle-Omaha, Neb.; Boise, Idaho – San Diego; and Portland-Tucson, Ariz. All flights start Nov. 1, except Omaha, which starts Nov. 7.
The new routes flown by Horizon on Q400s are Portland-Reno, Nev., and seasonal service between Mammoth, Calif. – San Diego (Dec. 19-April 13). Horizon currently serves Reno from both Seattle and San Jose. Mammoth is currently served by Horizon on a year-round basis from LAX.
“While we do not believe these markets have enough demand to support an Alaska 737 aircraft today, they will be good contributors to the network as part of our regional portfolio,” said Ben Munson, director of network planning. “The aircraft type deployed on each new route will be ideally suited for the market considering stage length, demand, and average fares. These markets will support the entire AAG network as we grow our hubs in Seattle and Portland, in addition to our growing presence in San Diego.”
Where have we heard this before?
All the new routes will be on sale, or have special offers upon launch. See alaskaair.com for specific fare sales.
Below is detailed information on each new market or route:
SkyWest-operated flights
Seattle-Omaha, Neb.
Aircraft: CRJ-700 (70 seats)
Distance: 1,368 miles
Schedule:
SEA-OMA: 10:40 am – 3:45 p.m. (daily)
OMA-SEA: 4:15 – 5:45 p.m. (daily)
Omaha zoo
The Henry Doorly Zoo in Omaha is one of the attractions that contributed to Kiplinger's naming the city the number one place for raising kids. It also has a broad employment base with several large companies headquarted there.
Market description and competitive landscape: Omaha, Neb., is the largest unserved market from Seattle within the range of the CRJ-700. Omaha is considered a popular destination for business travel as well as for travelers visiting friends and family in the area.
According to a visitor website, Omaha is the largest city in Nebraska and is home to several Fortune 500 companies including Berkshire Hathaway, ConAgra Foods and the Union Pacific Railroad.
As far as visitor attractions, the web site touts zoos and animal parks, an aquarium, an indoor tropical rainforest, a historic soda fountain and the Durham Museum – an art deco train station that has been transformed into a hands-on history museum. For outdoor activities, the city boasts 150 miles of walking and biking trails, several lakes and the Heartland of America Park with a 300-foot fountain and gondola rides on the Missouri River.
Seattle-Colorado Springs
Aircraft: CRJ-700 (70 seats)
Distance: 1,067 miles
Schedule:
COS-SEA: 8:00 - 9:55 a.m. (daily)
SEA-COS: 6:20 – 9:55 pm (daily)
Market description and competitive landscape: This route, the only non-stop service in the market, is designed to improve Alaska’s network from Seattle. Non-stop service is expected to stimulate travel in the market, particularly from those that drive from Colorado Springs to Denver today. Historically, travelers have flown to Denver on a low fare and made the 90 minute drive to Colorado Springs.
This flight will also serve as a maintenance transition flight for SkyWest.
Colorado Springs, the second largest city in Colorado after Denver, is home to the U.S. Air Force Academy, an Army base and two Air Force bases. A number of defense and high-tech companies also have a strong presence there and tourism is the third economic driver.
A visitor website touts the area’s weather, boasting of 300 days of sunshine a year and outdoor attractions such as 14,115-foot-tall Pikes Peak and Garden of the Gods, a registered National Natural Landmark consisting of towering sandstone rock formations. For indoor fun, the town hosts a wide variety of museums, including the World Figure Skating Museum, shopping, art galleries and a winery inside an abbey in nearby Cañon City.
Boise – San Diego
Aircraft: CRJ-700 (70 seats)
Distance: 749 miles
Schedule:
BOI-SAN: 10:20-11:25 a.m. (daily)
SAN-BOI: 5:35-8:40 p.m. (daily)
Market description and competitive landscape: Alaska will offer the only non-stop service in the market. In addition to serving the local market, the flight is also timed for easy connections on Alaska’s flight to Los Cabos, Mexico, giving Boise area residents access to two sun-filled destinations. The addition of San Diego will make Alaska the largest carrier from Boise, both in terms of seats and departures.
Portland-Tucson
Aircraft: CRJ-700 (70 seats)
Distance: 1,119 miles
Schedule:
PDX-TUS 9:15 a.m. -1:05 p.m. (daily)
TUS-PDX 1:35-3:30 p.m. (daily)
Market description and competitive landscape: Alaska will offer the only non-stop service in the market, which is the largest unserved market from Portland within the range of the CRJ-700. The Portland service will complement existing nonstop SEA-TUS flights. The availability of a non-stop flight is expected to stimulate travel on this route. Marketing also expects to gain travelers who traditionally fly to Phoenix and then make the two-hour drive to Tucson.
Horizon-operated flights
Portland-Reno, Nev.
Aircraft: Q400 (76 seats)
Distance: 444 miles
Schedule:
PDX-RNO: 11:10 a.m.-12:45 p.m. (daily)
RNO-PDX 1:15-2:50 p.m. (daily)
Market description and competitive landscape: Southwest is reducing capacity in this market, leaving an opportunity for Alaska to add one round-trip flight and build its network from Portland. Reno is one of the most under-served markets from Portland without Alaska Airlines service.
San Diego-Mammoth Lakes, effective Dec. 19 - April 13 (Seasonal Service)
Aircraft: Q400
Distance: 350 miles
SAN-MMH: 5:30 - 7 p.m. Every day except Saturday
MMH-SAN: 7:30-9 p.m. Every day except Saturday
SAN-MMH: 9:30 – 11 a.m. Saturdays only
MMH-SAN: 11:30 a.m. - 1 p.m. Saturdays only
06-27-2013, 12:11 PM
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“While we do not believe these markets have enough demand to support an Alaska 737 aircraft today, they will be good contributors to the network as part of our regional portfolio,” said Ben Munson, director of network planning. “The aircraft type deployed on each new route will be ideally suited for the market considering stage length, demand, and average fares. These markets will support the entire AAG network as we grow our hubs in Seattle and Portland, in addition to our growing presence in San Diego.”
Where have we heard this before?
Where have we heard this before?
06-27-2013, 12:27 PM
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ah, never mind. I thought it was funny.
06-27-2013, 12:51 PM
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Hey T. I'm all for LBP. How do you propose we change to this way of paying pilots without any pilots taking a paycut? And at what longevity you propose we stop 12? 25? 30? Pilots are not going to want to change to this unless it's beneficial to all of them, and neither will Delta.
06-27-2013, 12:52 PM
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That is the difficult part. The transition. I think WB/NB is a good starting point. I would say a 40 year payscale because one can get an ATP at (basically) 25 and work to 65. That's 40 years. In this environment, nobody needs a paycut. Some might get a bigger pay increase than others.. but nobody takes a paycut.
06-27-2013, 12:54 PM
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06-27-2013, 12:57 PM
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Hey for you car lovers, my kids lovee the show called How It's Made and they've had a separate show the last few weeks on How It's Made Dream Cars. Porsche, Ferrrari and other high end stuff. Everything from raw materials to entire care. Sci channel.
Just have one question... Ferrari FF? Thoughts?
[ps I don't fit in any of these, I'm more interested in an F-150 XLT vs the higher end F-150s and maybe F-250s, then you've hit my car limit]
Just have one question... Ferrari FF? Thoughts?
[ps I don't fit in any of these, I'm more interested in an F-150 XLT vs the higher end F-150s and maybe F-250s, then you've hit my car limit]
That's how I figured out how to land the DC-9
06-27-2013, 01:06 PM
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