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Old 07-18-2013 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
It looks a little different than the F/A "get up, get out" simulator.

Can you imagine, for one minute, if that had been our typical International 777 F/A crew, of 75-85 year old cat ranchers? Everyone would have died in the fire, because our Trolls would have been blocking the exits.

I was talking about this accident to a non-pilot businessman yesterday, he asked, "What is the mandatory retirement age for Flight Attendants?"

I laughed and then I pulled out my cell phone and showed him a picture of our Number One F/A, Bob, the 88 yr. old dead man walking. I explained how there IS NO MANDATORY RETIREMENT AGE FOR F/A's!

The guy was stunned. He couldn't believe we had F/A's still working at that age.

Where is the FAA when it comes to checking on the fitness of F/A's to do their jobs? They are only on board to EVACUATE the aircraft. Most of them can't even get out of their own way, after a smooth landing. Can you imagine if our typical 777 F/A crew survived this impact but then they had to evacuate the airplane?

I think the FAA really, really, needs to come up with some type of serious fitness test the F/A's should have to pass every year at recurrent training. Take a full body slam, then get up and help people get out of the airplane. Or at least make sure they can fit through an overwing exit without plugging it up!

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Old 07-18-2013 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamer
To me, ALPA provides better advertisement for the DPA, than the DPA does themselves. When I get a DPA email it is underwhelming. When I get an ALPA email I say to myself, we have got to get out of this organization.

Spot on Flamer!
Old 07-18-2013 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Or at least make sure they can fit through an overwing exit without plugging it up!
There's a reason why they're called plug-type doors!
Old 07-18-2013 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Your answer is within your own post. ALPA pays premiums to Kitty Hawk who provides coverage.

Just think of your own homeowner's insurance. Your insurer covers their own expenses from the premium you pay them.

I found that rather entertaining as well. It's like 3 card monty. Try to confuse the masses with a little mis-direction
Old 07-18-2013 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright
Advance Entitlement to be Posted on Friday, July 19

In order to continue the flow of 717 pilots through the training pipeline, an Advance Entitlement (AE) will be posted on Friday.* The bid will close at noon EDT on July 29th.* Crew Resources plans to post another AE in the late August or early September timeframe with 717 and 737 Captain and First Officer openings.
Sweet! Can't wait to get that coast-to-coast commute back after a crappy 4 day
Old 07-18-2013 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Can you imagine, for one minute, if that had been our typical International 777 F/A crew, of 75-85 year old cat ranchers? Everyone would have died in the fire, because our Trolls would have been blocking the exits.

I was talking about this accident to a non-pilot businessman yesterday, he asked, "What is the mandatory retirement age for Flight Attendants?"

I laughed and then I pulled out my cell phone and showed him a picture of our Number One F/A, Bob, the 88 yr. old dead man walking. I explained how there IS NO MANDATORY RETIREMENT AGE FOR F/A's!

The guy was stunned. He couldn't believe we had F/A's still working at that age.

Where is the FAA when it comes to checking on the fitness of F/A's to do their jobs? They are only on board to EVACUATE the aircraft. Most of them can't even get out of their own way, after a smooth landing. Can you imagine if our typical 777 F/A crew survived this impact but then they had to evacuate the airplane?

I think the FAA really, really, needs to come up with some type of serious fitness test the F/A's should have to pass every year at recurrent training. Take a full body slam, then get up and help people get out of the airplane. Or at least make sure they can fit through an overwing exit without plugging it up!
Was on a layover this week and we waited 15 minutes for one of the FA's to hobble through the airport. She was in the top 100. Captain decides this is an issue and calls a few people to see what the deal is. The FAA requires that they be able to operate the door to provide an exit for passengers and provide verbal instructions for using that exit. They are not required to do anything else, just operate the door and yell at passengers. ????

Did you see the pictures of those 90 pound Asiana gals packing passengers on their backs? There is no question that if that airplane had old grannies on it, a few more wouldn't have made it. I know we have some of the best FA's in the industry, but we do have some that need to hang it up and knit some crap for their great grand kids.
Old 07-19-2013 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Was on a layover this week and we waited 15 minutes for one of the FA's to hobble through the airport. She was in the top 100. Captain decides this is an issue and calls a few people to see what the deal is. The FAA requires that they be able to operate the door to provide an exit for passengers and provide verbal instructions for using that exit. They are not required to do anything else, just operate the door and yell at passengers. ????

Did you see the pictures of those 90 pound Asiana gals packing passengers on their backs? There is no question that if that airplane had old grannies on it, a few more wouldn't have made it. I know we have some of the best FA's in the industry, but we do have some that need to hang it up and knit some crap for their great grand kids.
The Asiana FAs were heroes.

Old 07-19-2013 | 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Can you imagine, for one minute, if that had been our typical International 777 F/A crew, of 75-85 year old cat ranchers? Everyone would have died in the fire, because our Trolls would have been blocking the exits.

I was talking about this accident to a non-pilot businessman yesterday, he asked, "What is the mandatory retirement age for Flight Attendants?"

I laughed and then I pulled out my cell phone and showed him a picture of our Number One F/A, Bob, the 88 yr. old dead man walking. I explained how there IS NO MANDATORY RETIREMENT AGE FOR F/A's!

The guy was stunned. He couldn't believe we had F/A's still working at that age.

Where is the FAA when it comes to checking on the fitness of F/A's to do their jobs? They are only on board to EVACUATE the aircraft. Most of them can't even get out of their own way, after a smooth landing. Can you imagine if our typical 777 F/A crew survived this impact but then they had to evacuate the airplane?

I think the FAA really, really, needs to come up with some type of serious fitness test the F/A's should have to pass every year at recurrent training. Take a full body slam, then get up and help people get out of the airplane. Or at least make sure they can fit through an overwing exit without plugging it up!
No offense, but I've seen plenty of pilots that don't look like they could get through the cockpit emergency escapes...
Old 07-19-2013 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Gold bond has quite a curious scent... Bear are curious creatures. Use with caution in the backcountry.

Hope your trek takes you up into the Valle Vidal... Best outdoor hiking experience I've ever had.

Philmont is an experience of a lifetime (two-time Philmont trekker), glad you can go with your son, my Dad was able to go on one of my treks and I'll always remember it!
Now wait a minute... If I try this miracle gold bond product and then go hiking there's a chance a bear might make Rocky Mountain oysters out of my woo who???!?
Old 07-19-2013 | 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
No offense, but I've seen plenty of pilots that don't look like they could get through the cockpit emergency escapes...
True dat. If there were a BMI limitation to pass a physical, upgrade times would be a lot less.
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